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Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 05, 2006, 12:37:55 am

Quote from: ~Shinta on June 03, 2006, 08:46:39 pm

I have no idea what you are talking about.

EH?!?  you know what a pheonix down is, but you've never heard of the infamous final attack + revive materia combination???  tifa would be ashamed!  >=(

i IMPLORE you sir, go get yourself a copy of final fantasy VII, one of the greatest rpg's of all frickin' time, and play it!!!

and if not FFVII, try FFIX or FFX - they've also got auto-life abilities, just not with materia.

ARRGH!!!

*'splodes AGAIN...*

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 05, 2006, 01:13:21 am

Uh oh, that auto-life didn't go into effect. One second...

*Uses Life 2 on Tetsaru*

You may wanna stop asploding like that. It does a number on your stamina when you and Tifa are having meetings...

IN BED

Not that I'd need to worry, based on dream data. I've hit Tifa like a Black Belt in some of my dreams.

 :sho :r for Izuna ****.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 05, 2006, 01:30:22 am

lol, guess i ran outta MP that time...  >_<;

*attempts to cast "Flare-agamuhja Star 24" using the 1 MP cost ability...*

........*POOF*

yep, guess i did.

*starts downing ethers and trifluids*

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 05, 2006, 01:50:14 am

Keep an eye on that MP gauge, dood.

...Tifa IS hot though, is she not? =3

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 05, 2006, 02:03:56 am

true dat, true dat.  she and nanako are probably my all-time favorite anime and video game girls.

*lounges back with arms around them as they feed me more ethers...*  >=D

aaah, that should put me back at around 99999999999999999 MP or so...

*proceeds to cast gravity spells on the girls' breasts while nuking random objects in the distance...*

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 05, 2006, 03:32:08 am

I hear ya, Tifa is the VERY first video game girl I fell in love with. And she is by far my favorite, even 7 years after I discovered her. (I'm 19 now.)

*grabs Tifa and hefts her breasts*

I mean, how can you hate a girl that looks THIS good? =3

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 05, 2006, 01:26:30 pm

Quote from: ZeroVirus on June 05, 2006, 03:32:08 am

I hear ya, Tifa is the VERY first video game girl I fell in love with. And she is by far my favorite, even 7 years after I discovered her. (I'm 19 now.)

*grabs Tifa and hefts her breasts*

I mean, how can you hate a girl that looks THIS good? =3

Unless your ideal FFVII girl is Aeris or Yuffie. Even with those odds stacked against Cloud, Tifa is still my kind of FFVII girl. Even used her, good ol' Cloud and Cait Sith in the battle against Sephiroth in his One Winged Angel form.

Thank Square Seph didn't impale Tifa on his sword, otherwise the gamers here would be REALLY angry. Thousands of Sephiroth Hate sites will spread like a virus.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: bfg00 on June 05, 2006, 05:25:33 pm

Ah yes, gotta love Final Attack+Life 2.

Also Tifa is awesome, pump her up with Speed Pluses and Luck Pluses and you have a bouncy beatdown machine.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 05, 2006, 05:46:34 pm

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 05, 2006, 12:37:55 am

i IMPLORE you sir, go get yourself a copy of final fantasy VII, one of the greatest rpg's of all frickin' time, and play it!!!

Yuck. There's got to be a half billion better ways to spend your time than play that sad excuse for an RPG.
Like say, looking at Tifa CGs online.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 05, 2006, 09:26:13 pm

Quote from: JG00 on June 05, 2006, 05:46:34 pm

Yuck. There's got to be a half billion better ways to spend your time than play that sad excuse for an RPG.

BLASHPHEMY!!! FF7 IS THE BEST RPG EVER, YOU UNBELIEVING ZEALOT!

GROAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

*Uses Dark Soul, punches you in the freaking face*

Quote from: JG00 on June 05, 2006, 05:46:34 pm

Like say, looking at Tifa CGs online.

...oh, whoops, nevermind, you're cool.

*Uses Life 2 on you*

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 05, 2006, 09:48:53 pm

No thanks, I've got Riselem in my inventory.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Muhznit on June 05, 2006, 10:34:58 pm

*Feels left out due to lack of exposure to FF series*
*Continues playing Mariokart DS*

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 06, 2006, 02:56:44 pm

Er, what's Dark Soul? Is it like a death move used by Sephiroth in the game?

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ~Shinta on June 06, 2006, 03:54:15 pm

I've played Final Fantasy I and II, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, and Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles. I've never owned a Sony console and I never will. I do hope they give us FF VII DS though, that would be F***ing awesome. I bet there is a licensing problem involved though.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 06, 2006, 05:31:05 pm

FF VI will be coming to DS soon.  But that's probably it for the remakes.  If it weren't for the absurd size of FF VII (several cds worth), the DS could easily handle it as its 3d rendering ability exceeds PS1's.  Instead, they'll focus on brand expansion with new spinoffs (such as Dirge of Cerberus, Crystal Chronicles II, and Dragon Quest Swords)

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 06, 2006, 06:21:32 pm

Quote from: LordRyunson on June 06, 2006, 02:56:44 pm

Er, what's Dark Soul? Is it like a death move used by Sephiroth in the game?

MegaMan Battle Network reference.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: lumberjack33 on June 06, 2006, 08:51:20 pm

Quote from: JG00 on June 06, 2006, 05:31:05 pm

If it weren't for the absurd size of FF VII (several cds worth)

...which is all video cutscenes. A slight in resolution to one-DS-screen size will drop the overall file size like a stone.

Whether or not this means DS Card Sized is another thing, but cartridge size increases all the time. Sounds like a task for the homebrew scene.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 06, 2006, 10:42:07 pm

Even so, I doubt they can get it down to less than 128 megabits (that's 16 megabytes for some of you folks)
I've got no idea what the biggest DS card size is right now, but the N64 version of Mario 64 is 32 kilobit, and it was translated almost 1:1 as one of the first DS games.  It stands to reason that future DS capacity will eventually be several factors of 2 larger, possibly even more than 128 but I'm willing to bet anything higher than that is cost-prohibitive at this time.  Maybe in a few years.  It took several years for 256 megabit N64 cards to become common, and the 512s were so rare becuase of the expensive production cost, even at the end of the N64 life.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 07, 2006, 01:16:49 am

Forget a DS port of FF7, they need to revamp it for the PS3, dammit.

Seeing Tifa in bouncy full-3D glory would be totally awesome!

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Meat on June 07, 2006, 01:48:42 am

As I recall, Tifa's breast physics in the FF7 cutscenes were...attention-grabbing to say the least.  :P

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

Quote from: JG00 on June 05, 2006, 05:46:34 pm

Yuck. There's got to be a half billion better ways to spend your time than play that sad excuse for an RPG.
Like say, looking at Tifa CGs online.

hmm...  nearly got offended there, but it's cool - i feel it's important to respect the opinions of others...

i can probably see why you hate it, though...  the 3D character sprites WERE rather crappily made, and some of the sound effects were kinda lame (summoning hades right before he unleashes the blast from his cauldron comes to mind).  i also noticed several typos in the game text...

...but beyond all that, it was an AWESOME game.  one of the first to use CG scenes, if i'm not mistaken.  i loved the materia system (i always love customization in games), the ATB system (instead of easy turn-based stuff), and what i thought was a damn good storyline involving kick-ass characters.

as i've said before - to each his own.  if you haven't played it, though, i HIGHLY suggest that you do.  of course, don't expect anything compared to today's standards... the game IS about a decade old.

Quote from: ZeroVirus on June 07, 2006, 01:16:49 am

Forget a DS port of FF7, they need to revamp it for the PS3, dammit.

Seeing Tifa in bouncy full-3D glory would be totally awesome!

now, i've heard RUMORS about an FFVII remake, but i haven't confirmed anything...  i still need to renew my subscription to game informer...  all i've heard of so far is dirge of cerberus and that one cell phone game...  =/

i guess only time will tell for sure.  it just seems that i've been waiting forever for several games to come out (the FUCKING zelda: twilight princess i reserved LAST august still hasn't come out yet...  >_<; ).



........wow, we REALLY got off-topic in this thread... any word yet on these requests??

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 07, 2006, 11:19:54 am

Yeah, really off topic. I even started another poll saying who should win in a boobie fight. I got inspired by the Meat and Tetsaru avatars and posted it in the versus section.

Other than that, I have no further requests other than animated huge bosoms. And clips from Samurai Showdowns 5 and 6, to see if they are worth playing.

Title: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 07, 2006, 08:56:08 pm

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

i can probably see why you hate it, though...  the 3D character sprites WERE rather crappily made

Actually I give them a plus for this.  It was a different spin.  I guess I was expecting the backgrounds to be 3d rendered as well - which most were not - allowing free roaming of the area.  In short, the 3d aspect really didnt add anything - it could have been done with 2d sprites just as easily but becuase it was still an early adopter, I have to give it some credit.

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

...but beyond all that, it was an AWESOME game.

Not compared to the previous three it wasn't.  Other recent Square games, Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger, were better as well.

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

i loved the materia system.

Except that its too damned hard to max out some of the materia.  To get all four colors of max materia requires far more game time than the story allows.  Again, the previous Square games were more balanced in this area.

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

the ATB system (instead of easy turn-based stuff)

FF6 had different speed reactions for each character as well.  And the Tales series innovated non-delay active battles several years prior.

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

and what i thought was a damn good storyline involving kick-ass characters.

Cloud is dull and unemotional (of which they made little improvement in FF8's Squall).  Several of the other characters are too linear with very little of the plot dedicated to their issues (Vincent, Cait, Red XIII, Cid all fall into this category - they each have one key piece to the plot and then little else from that point on.)

And plot? You spend 3/4 of the game chasing Sephiroth!  That's it.  Finito.  You're not trying to save a your friends/parents/homeland from danger or unlock the secrets of the universe or *anything* that's genuinely interesting.  Just chasing a man around the globe. Whoop-de-doo.

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

it just seems that i've been waiting forever for several games to come out (the FUCKING zelda: twilight princess i reserved LAST august still hasn't come out yet...  >_<; )

November 1. Available for both GameCube and as a Wii launch title.  It was originally slated for a GC only release in May, but swordswinging is an ideal method to make believers of the Wii controller.  Plus Nintendo really wants to hit Christmas hard with a veritable bonanza of million-seller games for the Wii and cripple the even longer overdue PS3 (which last I saw, was arriving November 22nd.)

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on June 07, 2006, 02:03:28 am

........wow, we REALLY got off-topic in this thread... any word yet on these requests??

Let me see if I can split this thread before the board cops arrest us for hijacking.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on June 08, 2006, 01:41:23 am

I have to agree with JG00 and his assessment of FF7.  Except for the fact that it was the game that essentially commercialized RPGs in NA, bringing it out of the niche market, the story and gameplay were easily surpassed by FF predecessors 4-6.  The materia system catered to the closet stat whore in everyone, which is probably why a lot of people enjoyed it even though more time was spent maxing them out/getting them all then in the actual story progression.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 08, 2006, 03:13:51 am

Quote from: JG00 on June 07, 2006, 08:56:08 pm

Actually I give them a plus for this.  It was a different spin.  I guess I was expecting the backgrounds to be 3d rendered as well - which most were not - allowing free roaming of the area.  In short, the 3d aspect really didnt add anything - it could have been done with 2d sprites just as easily but becuase it was still an early adopter, I have to give it some credit.


Not compared to the previous three it wasn't.  Other recent Square games, Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger, were better as well.


Except that its too damned hard to max out some of the materia.  To get all four colors of max materia requires far more game time than the story allows.  Again, the previous Square games were more balanced in this area.


FF6 had different speed reactions for each character as well.  And the Tales series innovated non-delay active battles several years prior.


Cloud is dull and unemotional (of which they made little improvement in FF8's Squall).  Several of the other characters are too linear with very little of the plot dedicated to their issues (Vincent, Cait, Red XIII, Cid all fall into this category - they each have one key piece to the plot and then little else from that point on.)

And plot? You spend 3/4 of the game chasing Sephiroth!  That's it.  Finito.  You're not trying to save a your friends/parents/homeland from danger or unlock the secrets of the universe or *anything* that's genuinely interesting.  Just chasing a man around the globe. Whoop-de-doo.


November 1. Available for both GameCube and as a Wii launch title.  It was originally slated for a GC only release in May, but swordswinging is an ideal method to make believers of the Wii controller.  Plus Nintendo really wants to hit Christmas hard with a veritable bonanza of million-seller games for the Wii and cripple the even longer overdue PS3 (which last I saw, was arriving November 22nd.)


Let me see if I can split this thread before the board cops arrest us for hijacking.

well, i can see your points on those statements.  FFVII was the first final fantasy game i ever played, so i guess i really got a kick out of it (tifa, hint hint).  i have yet to play FFVIII or any of the earlier ones, and i've only watched my friend play chrono trigger.  i'm pretty sure i have some roms of most of them, so i may try em if i don't have anything better to do.

so, zelda's coming out for the cube AND wii?  man, i've really been missing out on my gaming news ever since my magazine subscriptions ran out...  maybe that's why it took em so damn long to get the game released...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on June 08, 2006, 08:06:10 am

does anyone have the gifs of the tifa cutscenes?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 08, 2006, 08:46:38 am

So far, FFVII is the second Final Fantasy game I played, whereas IV (II In the states) was the first game I played. I played some of X and VIII, but those games are insanely hard to follow through. Let's take 8 for example. Most of the game, you are spent DRAWING out magic in order to make yourselves more powerful. Played a demo, and I only got to the Giant Spider Thing. Damn, it was a frustrating expirence. This leaves 7 and 4 the only Final Fantasys I ever beaten.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ROMate on June 08, 2006, 04:09:09 pm

Quote from: scarab on June 08, 2006, 08:06:10 am

does anyone have the gifs of the tifa cutscenes?

No, but have you got video to match that gif in your avatar?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 08, 2006, 06:17:24 pm

Before I'd played FF7, I'd completed Dragon Warrior I, Dragon Warrior IV, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger and got all the way to the final castle in DW2, so my perception of quality was quite a bit higher than a newcomer to FF7 would have.

If you play either FF4, FF6, or Chrono Trigger, you'll be greatly impressed by how lackluster the supposed sequel FF7 was as a game.  If you can deal with the NES graphics and sound, I'd even recommend DW4 long before FF7.

FF8 is only marginally better than FF7.  Its not quite as motonotous story-wise but still rather dull for the most part.  Like materia, magic drawing was another innovative way to handle spells, but ultimately flawed.  In some battles you spend 30 minutes to an hour drawing magic to fill your reserves before you do any real fighting.  The Cerberus fight comes to mind becuase he's the only enemy you can draw Triple off.  (Granted you can refine it from cards, but thats a terrible way to acquire magic.)  In any case, where I'd give FF7 a D-, I'd give FF8 merely a D.

If I might be allowed to continue on that thought, here is how I would grade the true RPG's I've played that I got at least 80% deep into such that I can make a fair assessment.  If you're looking for new RPG's to tackle, I recommend anything near the top of this list.

Skies of Arcadia / Skies of Arcadia Legends:	A+
Final Fantasy IV:	A
Dragon Warrior IV:	A
Final Fantasy VI:	A-
Chrono Trigger:	A-
Tales of Symphonia:	B+
Dragon Warrior VII:	B
Mario & Luigi: The Superstar Saga:	B
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door:	C+
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time:	C
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance:	C
Final Fantasy V:	C-
Tales of Legendia:	C-
Super Mario RPG:	C-
Dragon Warrior II:	D+
Dragon Warrior III:	D+
VIPER-RSR:	D+
Final Fantasy VIII:	D
Final Fantasy VII:	D-
Final Fantasy:	D-
Dragon Warrior:	F

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on June 09, 2006, 02:55:23 pm

Interesting list you have there.  If I may make a suggestion, you might like to try Shadow Hearts 2 (Shadow Hearts: Covenant in NA).  Great battle system, extremely well done voice overs, very nice story.  Also not a typical fantasy setting.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: R-9 on June 09, 2006, 05:01:16 pm

I'd also like to throw in Riviera: The Promised Land. Good luck finding it normally, though: It was published over here by ATLUS.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on June 10, 2006, 12:14:34 am

Whilst we are on the subject of good RPGs, anyone ever play Illusion of Gaia? (I believe it was called something else in Europe, but Sephie isn't on and I can't ask her)

That was a damn fine game I tell you what

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on June 10, 2006, 02:11:21 am

Quote from: The Philosopher on June 10, 2006, 12:14:34 am

Whilst we are on the subject of good RPGs, anyone ever play Illusion of Gaia? (I believe it was called something else in Europe, but Sephie isn't on and I can't ask her)

That was a damn fine game I tell you what

The title brings back memories, not because I played it myself, but because it was featured in the same gaming magazine as another RPG that I haven't played but just suddenly thought of for no apparent reason, Secret of Evermore.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: R-9 on June 10, 2006, 07:54:05 am

Quote from: The Philosopher on June 10, 2006, 12:14:34 am

Whilst we are on the subject of good RPGs, anyone ever play Illusion of Gaia? (I believe it was called something else in Europe, but Sephie isn't on and I can't ask her)

That was a damn fine game I tell you what

It was called Illusion of Time over in Europe.

It was a decent game, though that I can't say I was too fond of the ending.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on June 10, 2006, 11:34:58 am

Quote from: R-9 on June 10, 2006, 07:54:05 am

It was called Illusion of Time over in Europe.

It was a decent game, though that I can't say I was too fond of the ending.

Heh heh most people wern't.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: curtmack on June 11, 2006, 01:27:41 pm

Quote from: JG00 on June 06, 2006, 05:31:05 pm

FF VI will be coming to DS soon.

you're thinking of Final Fantasy 3. FF6 is coming to GBA along with FF4.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 11, 2006, 05:53:58 pm

Hmm. You're right. I thought I had read the opposite though. (FF3 for GBA and FF6 for DS, guess I'm wrong.)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Onemillioneyes on June 13, 2006, 11:40:23 am

What's final fantasy VII?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tsar on June 13, 2006, 12:06:26 pm

It's a gay boy fucky love story. Don't worry 'bout it.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 13, 2006, 01:30:27 pm

KHRIS STFU

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 13, 2006, 01:36:56 pm

It's so far one of the better Final Fantasys in the series. The main villian, Sephiroth, gets a following in numerous magazines and parody cartoons for his dirty deeds.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on June 13, 2006, 10:38:23 pm

Quote from: LordRyunson on June 13, 2006, 01:36:56 pm

It's so far one of the better Final Fantasys in the series. The main villian, Sephiroth, gets a following in numerous magazines and parody cartoons for his dirty deeds.

Being 4th or 5th does "technically" make it one of the better Final Fantasys I guess... your reasoning for this however... a bigger following just means it got better exposure.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: bfg00 on June 14, 2006, 12:05:13 am

FF7 was the first RPG I played on the computer and its still my favorite.  While I do see and agree with JG00's statements it doesn't mean I still don't love the game.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on June 14, 2006, 08:41:52 am

Quote from: HGsIndestruc.Roommate on June 08, 2006, 04:09:09 pm

No, but have you got video to match that gif in your avatar?

i've forgotten the name of the website where i grabbed the .gif from.  it's somewhere in these forums, but if i only knew where to search.  i don't have the video from the .gif, sorry.  which program do you need to make a .gif from video?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 14, 2006, 11:11:18 am

Quote from: DualSoul on June 13, 2006, 10:38:23 pm

Being 4th or 5th does "technically" make it one of the better Final Fantasys I guess... your reasoning for this however... a bigger following just means it got better exposure.

Yeah, that's what I said. Has anyone seen that Robot Chicken skit of Final Fantasy VII? Cloud is working at some fast food restaurant and backed up by Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie and Barret. Guess who the manager is in that one. ^_^

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on June 14, 2006, 11:39:06 am

Quote from: LordRyunson on June 14, 2006, 11:11:18 am

Yeah, that's what I said. Has anyone seen that Robot Chicken skit of Final Fantasy VII? Cloud is working at some fast food restaurant and backed up by Tifa, Aeris, Yuffie and Barret. Guess who the manager is in that one. ^_^

Yep. ^_^  Robot Chicken is great!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on June 14, 2006, 11:45:38 am

In speaking of Final Fantasy, I posted a slightly original fanfic about it in the Fanfiction Section. It's a demo disk of a story that I pay post on some other website if I get a following. It's called Final Fantasy Visions. It's roughly based on concepts of Final Fantasy's IV and VII. It may include more games, however..... 

If you like any of those games, you'll probably enjoy Visions.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 14, 2006, 02:03:29 pm

I remember that episode of Robot Chicken. I remember the theme song for Sephiroth was changed so that instead of hearing "SEPHIROTH" you heard "HAMBURGAH". And of course, "Sephiroth attacks with Unpaid Overtime!" Classic.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:07:50 am

I start playing after playing the Kingdom Hearts games.
*Random Question*
What if Yuffie or someone found a materia that increased breast size?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on June 18, 2006, 12:09:50 am

Quote from: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:07:50 am

I start playing after playing the Kingdom Hearts games.
*Random Question*
What if Yuffie or someone found a materia that increased breast size?

^_^

Yuffie grabs a Materia,determined to master Bustaga 3!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 18, 2006, 12:12:01 am

Quote from: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:07:50 am

*Random Question*
What if Yuffie or someone found a materia that increased breast size?

then this would probably happen...

(http://fapomatic.com/thumbs/18/misschievous.gif) (http://fapomatic.com/show.php?loc=18&f=misschievous.gif)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:18:16 am

*Stares at Yuffie's boobs*
Only one thing for me to do then...
*Hits rape button*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on June 18, 2006, 12:24:57 am

lol...i'll probably have to try drawing a pic of a big-breasted Yuffie...damn shame i have no scanner.
...but,that never stopped me from drawing a big-breasted Lita Kino...hee hee

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:37:43 am

You and I(meaning me and importgamer13) should be friends.

(why don't I have rep yet? Just curious)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on June 18, 2006, 12:40:58 am

Quote from: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:37:43 am

You and I(meaning me and importgamer13) should be friends.

(why don't I have rep yet? Just curious)

someone has to click on 'Respect' for you...like so...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 18, 2006, 12:42:11 am

Now he does!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on June 18, 2006, 12:44:23 am

Quote from: ZeroVirus on June 18, 2006, 12:42:11 am

Now he does!

Oh,so you're the one i double-teamed him with just now?...lol

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 12:46:36 am

Sweet.
*Gives them some materia :rupee :rupee*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Meat on June 18, 2006, 01:07:20 am

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4047/tifa11fu.gif)

*pairs Bakunyuu-Summon with GIF-command materia*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on June 18, 2006, 01:11:03 am

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 01:07:20 am

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4047/tifa11fu.gif)

*pairs Bakunyuu-Summon with GIF-command materia*

cool!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 01:12:58 am

Oh crap...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 01:19:08 am

Now I have to do this.
 :sho :p :k :sho :s :qcb :k
*summon giant naked Tifa with BE*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Meat on June 18, 2006, 01:30:20 am

Damn.  I should've paired "GIF As Well" with Bakunyuu-Summon instead of the command one since my Breast-Groping Gauntlet only has two slots.  :(

*casts Slow on previous GIF*

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1066/tifa5zs.gif)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 01:35:26 am

PWNed! ^_^

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 18, 2006, 01:42:14 am

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 01:07:20 am

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4047/tifa11fu.gif)

*pairs Bakunyuu-Summon with GIF-command materia*

HOLY CRAP, AN ORIGINAL FFVII TIFA .GIF!!!

*saves that bitch*  >=D

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Meat on June 18, 2006, 02:11:12 am

Yeah, I finally found some cutscenes in .avi format and can now GIF'em up.  If you're really desperate for vintage Tifa jiggle, then you can have this, too.  :P

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9239/tifa35oz.gif)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on June 18, 2006, 02:13:41 am

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 02:11:12 am

Yeah, I finally found some cutscenes in .avi format and can now GIF'em up.  If you're really desperate for vintage Tifa jiggle, then you can have this, too.  :P

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9239/tifa35oz.gif)

OMG, THANK YOU MEAT!!!  PLEASE POST MORE!!!

*'SPLODES into a joy-gasm*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2006, 02:16:24 am

Thanks!
*gives materia in return :rupee*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on June 18, 2006, 02:25:52 am

*starts up some cheesy J-pop music about boobs*

Chichi chichi oppai, BOIN BOIN!
Chichi chichi oppai, BOIN BOIN!
Moge! Moge! Moge moge moge moge!

Mo-ge, mo-ge-moge! Chichi wo moge!
Moge puririn boyon moge!
Moge pororon poyon moge!

Round chi-chi, triangular oppai, rocket boin...
Gently (moge!) suddenly (moge!)
Subtly (moge!) repeat (moge!)

Chichi chichi oppai, BOIN BOIN!
Chichi chichi oppai, BOIN BOIN!
Moge! Moge moge moge! Chichi wo mogeeeeeeee!

(Chichi wo moge = groping breasts)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on June 18, 2006, 02:16:40 pm

do you know where i can find those tifa cg sets like the ones at http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/%7EFightingCuties/download.html

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: bfg00 on June 18, 2006, 02:42:40 pm

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 02:11:12 am

Yeah, I finally found some cutscenes in .avi format and can now GIF'em up.  If you're really desperate for vintage Tifa jiggle, then you can have this, too.  :P

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9239/tifa35oz.gif)

Actually you can find those if you have the PC version of FF7.  All the cinematics are playable without playing the game as they are saved in a standard format.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: JG on June 18, 2006, 05:16:50 pm

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 01:30:20 am

... my Breast-Groping Gauntlet only has two slots.  :(

On the bright side, they're probably Triple-Growth though, right?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Meat on June 18, 2006, 10:48:53 pm

Yep, just like Tifa's secret equippable "Nipple-Tassles" item.

Quote from: bfg00 on June 18, 2006, 02:42:40 pm

Actually you can find those if you have the PC version of FF7.  All the cinematics are playable without playing the game as they are saved in a standard format.

I only have it on my Playstation, so I guess it's because of those who had the PC version that I was able to get them in .avi format.  :D  Anyway, here's another gif...

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1502/tifa4ex124qd.gif)

Tifa's jiggling breasts absorb part of the kinetic shockwave generated by the fleeing Weapon, saving the Highwind and everyone aboard.  What a gal!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: bfg00 on June 19, 2006, 05:15:51 pm

Quote from: Meat on June 18, 2006, 10:48:53 pm

Yep, just like Tifa's secret equippable "Nipple-Tassles" item.

I only have it on my Playstation, so I guess it's because of those who had the PC version that I was able to get them in .avi format.  :D  Anyway, here's another gif...

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1502/tifa4ex124qd.gif)

Tifa's jiggling breasts absorb part of the kinetic shockwave generated by the fleeing Weapon, saving the Highwind and everyone aboard.  What a gal!

Its so true.  What a hero!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on August 27, 2006, 06:48:26 pm

*casts Bumpaga on the thread*

hey, i thought maybe it'd be appropriate to discuss Dirge of Cerberus here, since it IS part of the FF7 storyline.  has anyone else gotten/played this game yet?  i haven't finished it yet (it seems pretty easy so far), so i'd appreciate it if any spoilers to the storyline would be put in spoiler text boxes first, if you want to post them.

the game seems a lot like Devil May Cry in terms of gameplay, but i enjoy being able to customize your weapons to an extent (it reminds me of Resident Evil 4 where you can pay for modifications).

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on August 27, 2006, 10:33:15 pm

DoC is pretty cool.

I only got to watch my brother play it for a bit when he rented it, I don't play rentals because I get attached to most games I buy and like to have them around so I can really enjoy them without worrying about returning them.

Gackt is in this game, Gackt does the songs for this game.

Gackt is win.

DoC gains some brownie points with me just because it has Gackt in it =P

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: importgamer13 on August 27, 2006, 11:29:45 pm

I haven't played DoC yet,but it looks cool.

I liked the fact that Cloud was a hidden character in Final Fantasy Tactics for PS1....that was priceless!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ragnabot on August 28, 2006, 04:16:51 am

Soldier's Limit + Quick Charge > All Jobs combined. But that's FFT and this is a FFVII thread.

Bah, don't care about FFVII anymore after they revived / started milking the franchise with spin-offs such as Advent Children. The VFX department did a great job though. And the Materia system was one of the more enjoyable features followed by the Junctions system.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on August 28, 2006, 09:12:37 pm

Am I the only one who didn't really like FF7 to begin with?  least of all after the billionth and one spin off? (and didn't Square try and create a magical link between FF7 and FF10?  Bloody blasphemers)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on August 29, 2006, 09:26:34 am

Actually you arn't Bang Doll, but I'm curious, I never noticed a connection between 7 and 10...care to explain what it is? If it's too spoiler-riffic put a spoiler tag on it or PM it to me.

I eat this stuff up =D

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: R-9 on August 29, 2006, 10:49:56 am

Yeah, one of the secondary characters in 10-2 is supposed to be the founder of the Shinra corporation.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on August 30, 2006, 11:34:44 pm

Yeah, basically they made it up so... what was it again?  FFX is a prequel to FFVII now?  Like it's the same world and FFVII is what happens to it?

Of course whatever happens to all that mythos in FFX to become FFVII's mythos is odd.  No mention of Lifestream and whatnot in FFX.  Could those pyreflies and whatnot in FFX really "morph" into the whole FFVII thing?

Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X#Legacy and the corresponding section on FF7.  Granted it doesn't say exactly what the connection is but I forget where the original source is.



As if Squeenix hasn't trampled over the Final Fantasy thematic tradition enough as it is, establishing a connection between the two is a goddamn motherfucking sin if you fucking ask me.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on August 31, 2006, 06:58:09 am

Sounds like what they did with Chrono Cross/Chrono Trigger.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Shinjo on August 31, 2006, 07:32:19 am

Quote from: Bang Doll on August 28, 2006, 09:12:37 pm

Am I the only one who didn't really like FF7 to begin with?

You're not.  I actually hate FF7 now due to the over-exposure of its paper-thin plotline and one-dimensional characters.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on August 31, 2006, 07:46:24 am

I like FFVII, though I think I like FFX and X-2 better.  Being able to switch characters out on the fly is great.  Plus Lulu is awesome.

Magna Carta:  Tears of Blood is alright.  Kinda hard gameplay, but totally worth it because just about all the females are quite busty.

Shadow Hearts:  From the New World is pretty damn good, too.  It's wacky, but it's quite fun and not as hard as Magna Carta:  ToB.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: R-9 on August 31, 2006, 07:53:31 am

Quote from: DualSoul on August 31, 2006, 06:58:09 am

Sounds like what they did with Chrono Cross/Chrono Trigger.

Not really. In CC it's established quite early on that it is, in fact, the same world as Chrono Trigger.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: DualSoul on August 31, 2006, 08:04:51 pm

Perhaps, but it seemed like a hack-and-slash sort of job.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 04, 2006, 12:16:59 am

So that means even fanfictions (Including FFVisions and the like,) are going to go downhill because of it's somewhat paper thin plot. Unless I can figure out where that story is going to go, since I hope it would be a much better Final Fantasy VII.

Any suggestions on how to make FFVisions better, so the storie's not completely paper thin? Hopefully I won't be smited for this....

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 06, 2006, 08:16:09 pm

Quote from: scarab on August 31, 2006, 07:46:24 am

Plus Lulu is awesome.

He Who Hath Titjob Avatar makes a good point.


Also, Chrono Cross and Radical Dreamers both sucked, and Chrono Trigger was one of, if not the, greatest RPG of all time.  While FFVII and FFX were both kinda mediocre. (even if 7 had Tifa and 10 had Lulu) So the analogy is totally off-basis, since in the CC/CT scheme it's quite clear which game is crap and which game is awesome.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 06, 2006, 11:41:49 pm

I humbly agree. Even though Import and I added some lovely ladies to Final Fantasy: Visions, the story still isn't going anywhere yet. I'm still tied up with college work and the like to even try to get started. I still need some inspiration to continue Visions though. Hopefully I created a good villainess that should fit the same mold as Sephiroth, Kefka, and their other villain high school buddies. Those were great villains.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on September 07, 2006, 07:53:41 am

Quote from: Bang Doll on September 06, 2006, 08:16:09 pm

He Who Hath Titjob Avatar makes a good point.

Think its time to change the avatar?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on September 07, 2006, 10:42:52 am

Yes. Yes I do think it's time to change the avatar.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Centurion on September 07, 2006, 02:07:53 pm

Quote from: The Great Will on September 07, 2006, 10:42:52 am

Yes. Yes I do think it's time to change the avatar.

NEVER!!!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 07, 2006, 10:27:22 pm

Hey, when does this turn from a Final Fantasy discussion thread to an avatar changing room? Just want to know what people think of my Final Fantasy fanfic so far. Is it all right? Does it need a few changes in the progressing chapters? Feel free to post!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 08, 2006, 12:00:32 am

Quote from: The Great Will on September 07, 2006, 10:42:52 am

Yes. Yes I do think it's time to change the avatar.

i agree...  if he can find and post the video from where he got it from.  >=)

btw, i've been using the same avatar/sig ever since i joined...  you guys think i should change mine as well?  sorry if we seem to be hijacking another thread...  >_<;

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ROMate on September 08, 2006, 12:21:15 am

Thread hijacks are part of forum life. The only time a hijack should be apologized for is if it occurs in a sticky. 

And don't change your avatar just because other people want you to. Do it because you feel like it. If you're fine with what you've got, keep it.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 08, 2006, 03:02:42 pm

Quote from: LordRyunson on September 06, 2006, 11:41:49 pm

Hopefully I created a good villainess that should fit the same mold as Sephiroth, Kefka, and their other villain high school buddies.

How dare you put Kefka and Sephiroth in the same sentence!  Sephiroth isn't 1/100th of a percentile of the villain th at the great Kefka was!

Sephy the emo pansy compared to the great, maniacal, mentally deranged, sado-possibly-masochistic demon god that Kefka was. U_U


Also don't change your avatar.  Why change avatars?  I have this one on like every forum I go to, and I don't plan on changing it anytime soon.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 08, 2006, 04:35:15 pm

Quote

How dare you put Kefka and Sephiroth in the same sentence!  Sephiroth isn't 1/100th of a percentile of the villain th at the great Kefka was!

Sephy the emo pansy compared to the great, maniacal, mentally deranged, sado-possibly-masochistic demon god that Kefka was. U_U

Okay, maybe if I can get some free time on my hands (And some final fantasy kicked in,) maybe I can make Zyra (The slated main villainess of Final Fantasy Visions) kind of like Kefka. All those years trapped under weapon corps rule has made her insane, and determined to destroy the world... Then recreate it, and destroy it again!

Such words of inspiration, coming from you Bang Doll.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 08, 2006, 09:36:25 pm

Just make her poison the kingdom of Doma's water supply and you'd be set >_>
<_<

Also, I'd probably be slightly less scurred of Kefka's end-game appearance if he was a chick.  Homophobia alert, homophobia alert!!

Oh and make the best way to beat her be four characters with Flame Shields, three with high magic casting Merton every round with economizers and the best magic user with a gem box, and the fourth using the Offering and Genji Glove and hammering away with the Ultima Weapon and a Maneater U_U

Okay yeah so I liked FF6 a lot.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 08, 2006, 10:58:07 pm

i like my avatar too, i was just worried that it was getting kinda old, that's all...  but i guess alternately-bouncing boobs is something that never gets old, since you don't really ever see it anyway!  =3

and i like your avatar too, Bang Doll - she's got that sassy, sexy glint in her eye, and her top's so tightly stretched, it almost looks like she's about to bust out of it.  i like that.  >=D

i guess i need to play the other Final Fantasy games sometime (especially 6) just to see how good they are compared to what i HAVE already played...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 08, 2006, 11:07:27 pm

Nowadays, the only final fantasy fix I can get is Kingdom Hearts. And I beaten both games (Even though I didn't get all the extra goodies in there...)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 08, 2006, 11:14:50 pm

Quote from: LordRyunson on September 08, 2006, 11:07:27 pm

Nowadays, the only final fantasy fix I can get is Kingdom Hearts. And I beaten both games (Even though I didn't get all the extra goodies in there...)

Kingdom Hearts was awesome, and the sequel was FRIGGIN' awesome.  i still haven't gotten everything on the second one, mainly because i haven't really had the time to devote to it, with all the synth-hunting you have to do to get the Ultima Weapon and everything.  i loved the alternate forms, and the much-improved gummi ship editor and levels.  one of my friends actually built a ship that looked like the cat from Trigun, lol.  the only thing is, the special ending kinda left me confused on what the third game (if there is one) would be like...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 09, 2006, 04:45:28 pm

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on September 08, 2006, 10:58:07 pm

i guess i need to play the other Final Fantasy games sometime (especially 6) just to see how good they are compared to what i HAVE already played...

What have you played?

If your answer does not include an FF < 7 I will smack you and call you a poor uncultured bastid.  Or something like that.
Though I dunno anymore... all the people who started FF'ing at 7, who I always convince to play earlier games, just start complaining and say the earlier games are crap.

They hurt my feelings ;_;
I don't think there ever was an FF pre-7 that I didn't like, even if some of them could get stale at times.  I suddenly got the craving to play FF3 NES; ONION KIDS, HO!!!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 09, 2006, 06:35:15 pm

I played and beaten the following games.

FF7 on PC, FF4 (FF2 in america), and seen the endings for 9 and 10 respectivably, even though some of my friends did most of the work on 4, it was I who slew Zeromus. Best Victory Ever!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ROMate on September 09, 2006, 06:38:21 pm

FF games from 7 on were crappy. It feels recycled. The antagonists/rivals are all the same (dudes who look like chicks and are full of themselves), and the heroes are starting to blend together, too. In the upcoming FF12 I can't even figure out which of the two main protagonists is the chick and which one's the dude.

Kingdom Hearts got real old real fast. KH2 is yaoi bait and set-up for KH3: Milking the Cash Cow. Square needs to stop.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 10, 2006, 02:26:00 am

Quote from: Bang Doll on September 09, 2006, 04:45:28 pm

What have you played?

If your answer does not include an FF < 7 I will smack you and call you a poor uncultured bastid.  Or something like that.
Though I dunno anymore... all the people who started FF'ing at 7, who I always convince to play earlier games, just start complaining and say the earlier games are crap.

They hurt my feelings ;_;
I don't think there ever was an FF pre-7 that I didn't like, even if some of them could get stale at times.  I suddenly got the craving to play FF3 NES; ONION KIDS, HO!!!

well, i guess you'll have to smack me and call me a poor uncultured bastard then, because my cousin was the first person to introduce me to the Final Fantasy series, and it just so happened that #7 was the game he was playing when he did that.  i guess you could say it was fate.  =/

and yeah, i am one of those people who don't care that much for old-school games that much (mainly due to poor controls, and i tend to be a control freak), unless you consider Super Nintendo old-school, which i guess it kinda is now.  if there ever were any FF games on SNES, then no, i haven't played them, sorry.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 10, 2006, 03:22:56 am

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on September 10, 2006, 02:26:00 am

if there ever were any FF games on SNES, then no, i haven't played them, sorry.

Did you just say "if"?

... Holy fuck, I'm actually too shocked to bitchslap you right now.  That somebody doesn't even know where the first six FF's came from.  The first three being on NES, the second three being on SNES.  You mean you don't know anything about pre-7?

Well I guess that doesn't reallys urprise me; almost all FF fans nowadays are like that.  They have no idea of their FF roots, which is I guess why they don't care how FF is going down the drain and Square is milking them for every drop they've got (glad Roommate said it about KH I was afraid everybody here was googoo gaga crazy over KH; it just got old so fast)

But there's no reason for Square to stop.  They're making millions.

And about FF heroes:
The combined might of Cecil, Butz, and Locke (just as an example; let's throwin Sabin too [I refuse to call him Mash, even if it is his real JP name >_>]) could take on every FF protagonist and antagonist from FF7 on.  Cloud and Sephy?  Easy as pie.  Squall?  Don't even get me started.  Zidane is the punk of the bunch, even the others could take him.  Not to mention that tranny that was the boss of 9, whatever his name was.  And Tidus.  Lawl.

Only good things I can say about FF7 and on is that each game somehow actually has one or two, usually a pair, of really cool characters.  It's too bad 'cuz they're mostlys urrounded by boring muck.

Examples:
FF7 Tifa and Vincent (I liked that game's Cid too XD; and Red XIII was okay but even more flakey than Vincent; Barret wins points for cursing a lot)
FF8 Quistis rules.  All blue mages rule, no matter what game they're in.  It could be the worst game of all time, if there's a blue mage in the game, then they're automatically awesome.  Zell was the brawler too so he was good.  Maybe even Irvine.
FF9 Freyja and Vivi.  'Nuff said.
FF10 Lulu and Auron.  Lulu rules U_U  I have a love/hate relationship with Kimahri... he's probably the only blue magician that I don't really like... I blame this on the fact thathis blue magic is even sillier than Quistis's (and so limited; gawd - does he even get White Wind i don't remember)

Edit:  Oh, and Laguna doesn't count.  Because if he did, that would make the characters of FF8 actually be balanced so that there would actually be more good characters than shitty retarded characters.  And that would just be weird for a post-FF6 FF game.  Plus he's laguna so really counting him would just be unfair either way.  I mean he's Laguna.  C'mon.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 10, 2006, 11:43:13 am

Quote

And about FF heroes:
The combined might of Cecil, Butz, and Locke (just as an example; let's throwin Sabin too [I refuse to call him Mash, even if it is his real JP name >_>]) could take on every FF protagonist and antagonist from FF7 on.  Cloud and Sephy?  Easy as pie.  Squall?  Don't even get me started.  Zidane is the punk of the bunch, even the others could take him.  Not to mention that tranny that was the boss of 9, whatever his name was.  And Tidus.  Lawl.

The boss of 9 was either Kuja, the Sephiroth/Zidane hybrid, or Necron the Cosmic Being that nuked your HP down and counters with Grand Cross.

Oh, and in case you guys are wondering, Final Fantasy Visions is like one of those impro stories that require alot of imagination. Sadly, I might not have the inspiration to work on it right now.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on September 10, 2006, 12:01:12 pm

Yeah really, even if you totally despise FF7, you have to admit it had the best Cid ever. He just had that whole grumpy old bastard thing going on.

And I will add an additional WTF?! to tetsaru for not knowing about pre-7 Final Fantasy. I mean, God, I play Final Fantasy 7 and up, but I know that those previous to it were much much better games.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 10, 2006, 12:31:07 pm

Yes, and let's not forget the FFIV classic..... YOU SPOONY BARD!! Tellah was the man in that one! Too bad he had to die honorably, rather than Aeris's demise at the hands of One Winged Bastard.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on September 10, 2006, 12:37:26 pm

Tellah died honourably indeed, but it was his own passion for hatred and revenge that ended him...pity really.

You know what FF death was the worst presented though? Galuf in FFV. It pretty much went like this.

"OH NO GALUF IS DEAD"

"i'm his daughter"

"K lets go"

Yeeeeah.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 10, 2006, 03:23:34 pm

Quote from: Will on September 10, 2006, 12:37:26 pm

Tellah died honourably indeed, but it was his own passion for hatred and revenge that ended him...pity really.

You know what FF death was the worst presented though? Galuf in FFV. It pretty much went like this.

"OH NO GALUF IS DEAD"

"i'm his daughter"

"K lets go"

Yeeeeah.

Dude.

I fucking know.
And I loved Galuf.  He was always my party's blue Mage =(

FFV was probably the worst SNES FF... at least storywise.  God for some reason I loved playing that game... but the whole story presentation was just like "WTFUX".  Though Faris was badass.  Yeah, no Final Fantasy since has ever had a cross-dressing tomboy female pirate captain who is secretly the sister of some royal princess or whatever.  Faris was cool.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on September 10, 2006, 03:41:47 pm

Every FF game is crazy fun to me. Sure, I started officially with FF7, but I know that the true classics are the three before that.

Cecil rocks, Locke rocks, Terra rocks, Shadow rocks, Tellah MEGAROCKS, and of course, Galuf fucking OWNS.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on September 11, 2006, 08:25:00 am

I don't think I've read a single post about how cool Wakka is and how is hair is cool and about how he's awesomeness and cool and awesome at the same time.  *SARCASM*

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 11, 2006, 01:03:55 pm

Quote from: Bang Doll on September 10, 2006, 03:22:56 am

Did you just say "if"?

... Holy fuck, I'm actually too shocked to bitchslap you right now.  That somebody doesn't even know where the first six FF's came from.  The first three being on NES, the second three being on SNES.  You mean you don't know anything about pre-7?

well, i was well aware that there was at least one FF game on NES (partially due to all the friggin' flash movies on Newgrounds and everywhere else), and i guess i should've known that there were several SNES games too, seeing how i have a buttload of Nintendo roms that i never play.  i think the main reason why i was confused about this matter is because i've heard that some of the Japanese FF games that were the same as the American releases were given different numbers or something, and i never really figured that out, so i wasn't sure if all the Japanese SNES roms counted or not.  all i know is that 1 & 2, 4, and Tactics have been re-released for GBA, and a re-release of 3 is supposed to coming out as well, whether those are the Japanese numbers or the American ones.  sorry for my old-school stupidity - remember, i grew up on Sonic...  but i guess that's still no excuse.  =/

btw, i beat Dirge of Cerberus last night, it wasn't that bad of an ending...  the storyline really surprised me when i was about to fight Wiess (read the spoiler tag for my understanding of it)!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hojo managed to stay alive!  somehow he uploaded his own data to the city's network once he discovered that his plan of using Jenova cells on himself didn't work out so well, and then took over Wiess's body (who was supposed to become Omega) by manipulating the Lifestream into thinking the world was about to end, something like that - it's kinda complicated...  play the damn game and find out for yourself!  >_<;

oh yeah, seeing how i beat that game...  is it me, or has there been a recurring theme of relatively easy final boss fights in FF games recently??  Kingdom Hearts 2 was an exception (i guess it counts as FF), but it's something i've noticed.  FF X-2 was the worst about it...  the enemies/bosses on that game were always either really easy, or incredibly tough - there wasn't really a happy medium (never did finish the Cloister of Trials path under Bevelle...).  not to mention i hated what they did to the FFX storyline with that sequel, along with the whole chapter system...  >_<;

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 11, 2006, 01:48:38 pm

I played some of X, and it was too complicated. The sphere grid, Blitzball, who could forget some traversities?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: scarab on September 11, 2006, 05:38:28 pm

Apparently in XII, the game plays itself.  You just WATCH the game play with itself.

So, like Penny Arcade said...the game is masturbating.

With bunny ear girls.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 11, 2006, 09:09:05 pm

Quote from: scarab on September 11, 2006, 08:25:00 am

I don't think I've read a single post about how cool Wakka is and how is hair is cool and about how he's awesomeness and cool and awesome at the same time.  *SARCASM*

For a split second I was about to bitchslap you.

Though a friend of mine loves Wakka.  I just tell myself it's because he loves Blitzball so much the love kind of leaks onto Wakka (LIKE A VAGINA WHAOMGZ!?) 'cuz let's face it.... the whole reason you ever play FFX is so you can play Blitzball.  Or at least it's the only reason I played >_>

sphere grid was indeed dumb.  But FFX had Lulu, Auron, and Blitzball.  That made it sort of worth my time.  And then FFX-2 came around and no fucking Lulu OR Auron (well obviously no Auron but wtf) and I forget what happened to Blitzball but it was probably gayped up along with everything else (lol Yuna uses guns)

I mean there was a period of time just before FFX-2 was released that I literally thought the game was some practical joke by Square (kind of making fun of itself, having made ELEVEN FINAL FANTASIES and all) and then it was acutally released >_>
God knows where the story in X-2 went to, but it wasn't in attendance during the actual game.

FFX-2 just shows that Japanese people can be just as desperate and stupid as Americans.  It would almost make me proud of my country if I didn't hate it so much right now.

Ryunson - what's a traversity?

tetsaru - here's the deal.  The NA released FF games were: FF1, FF4, and FF6.  They were called in NA, in respective order, FF1, FF2, and FF3.  FF2, FF3, and FF5 were considered "too hard" by Square for American gamers.  Also, the FF4 released in NA was a horrifically toned down version of the game; sometimes known as "easytype" nowadays.  Also, a lot of crap was changed and removed from the games when they released the games in NA.

And then Square leaves Nintendo forever and starts naming their FF's what they actually were.

Also, unlike teh rest of the world, I'm not too hard on Ted Woolsey for his translations.  Considering the times, I thought he did a pretty good (with some exceptions *cough*Tonic*cough* >_>)

scarab - that reminds me, I haven't read PA in like, ages.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 11, 2006, 09:14:44 pm

I don't see any word for traversity in the dictionary, but here's one for travesty:

–noun 1. a literary or artistic burlesque of a serious work or subject, characterized by grotesque or ludicrous incongruity of style, treatment, or subject matter. 
2. a literary or artistic composition so inferior in quality as to be merely a grotesque imitation of its model. 
3. any grotesque or debased likeness or imitation: a travesty of justice. 
–verb (used with object) 4. to make a travesty on; turn (a serious work or subject) to ridicule by burlesquing. 
5. to imitate grotesquely or absurdly. 


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[Origin: 1655–65; < F travesti, ptp. of travestir to disguise < It travestire, equiv. to tra- (< L trāns- trans-) + vestire to clothe < L vestīre; see vest]


—Synonyms 1. See burlesque. 3. mockery, perversion, sham, distortion.

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There! That's the word I'm looking for!

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: bfg00 on September 12, 2006, 05:49:17 pm

Since when has anyone ever let a word not exisiting stop them from using it?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 12, 2006, 07:30:16 pm

Quote from: LordRyunson on September 11, 2006, 09:14:44 pm

but here's one for travesty:

I swear I was wrestling with what you could have meant for like a whole 15 seconds (that's a long time for a forum post, for me, goddamnit) and 'travesty' didn't even pop into my mind.  So obious now.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 12, 2006, 07:35:14 pm

Quote from: bfg00 on September 12, 2006, 05:49:17 pm

Since when has anyone ever let a word not exisiting stop them from using it?

exactly!  i garignacken my patoognuhs all the time, blargety.

that aside, blitzball was a JOKE in X-2, so much so that i didn't even play it when i found out that you couldn't even control your characters anymore.  they changed up how many players were on the field, and all sorts of other retarded shit.  basically, all you do now is watch sea monkeys float around, it seems...  and i really enjoyed the blitzball game from X, i had Brother up to around Lvl. 80 or so, lol.  never did get the Jecht Shot 2, though...

and there was some crazy shit going on with Wakka, too.  didn't he always wipe his nose with his arm during battles??  also, if you had Haste on Wakka and you got the last hit in with him, it looked like he was having a seizure or something during his victory pose, lol...  but probably the most memorable thing about him was when you fought Sin on the airship with him.  it was always funny as hell watching him hurl his ball way off into the background and waiting about a good 5 seconds before it actually beaned Sin in the face.  pretty fucked up, ya?  XD

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 12, 2006, 09:43:21 pm

Quote

and there was some crazy shit going on with Wakka, too.  didn't he always wipe his nose with his arm during battles??  also, if you had Haste on Wakka and you got the last hit in with him, it looked like he was having a seizure or something during his victory pose, lol...  but probably the most memorable thing about him was when you fought Sin on the airship with him.  it was always funny as hell watching him hurl his ball way off into the background and waiting about a good 5 seconds before it actually beaned Sin in the face.  pretty fucked up, ya?  XD

That sounds awesome, Tetsaru.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 12, 2006, 11:24:04 pm

Quote from: tetsaru arigashi on September 12, 2006, 07:35:14 pm

exactly!  i garignacken my patoognuhs all the time, blargety.

that aside, blitzball was a JOKE in X-2, so much so that i didn't even play it when i found out that you couldn't even control your characters anymore.  they changed up how many players were on the field, and all sorts of other retarded shit.  basically, all you do now is watch sea monkeys float around, it seems...  and i really enjoyed the blitzball game from X, i had Brother up to around Lvl. 80 or so, lol.  never did get the Jecht Shot 2, though...

and there was some crazy shit going on with Wakka, too.  didn't he always wipe his nose with his arm during battles??  also, if you had Haste on Wakka and you got the last hit in with him, it looked like he was having a seizure or something during his victory pose, lol...  but probably the most memorable thing about him was when you fought Sin on the airship with him.  it was always funny as hell watching him hurl his ball way off into the background and waiting about a good 5 seconds before it actually beaned Sin in the face.  pretty fucked up, ya?  XD

1) yeah I guess all that stuff my friends told me about Blitzball in X-2 was true >_>

2) Yes.  Like long-range artillery shells with the blitz balls.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ROMate on September 13, 2006, 01:33:04 am

I liked watching Wakka over the course of FFX. Of all the characters, I think I like his development best, because he changes so drastically from all the way with Yevon, to "OMFG Yevon sux I'ma bitchslap dem hoez".

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: King Zarkon on September 13, 2006, 09:05:47 am

yeah wakka is a crazy cajumeximacan. i personally like kimari and lulu. kimari because he was a runt that grew to power, and lulu because she fought with toys.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 13, 2006, 07:18:09 pm

Quote from: HGsIndestruc.Roommate on September 13, 2006, 01:33:04 am

I liked watching Wakka over the course of FFX. Of all the characters, I think I like his development best, because he changes so drastically from all the way with Yevon, to "OMFG Yevon sux I'ma bitchslap dem hoez".

Eh I dunno... Wakka just seemed to stay as the character the game intended you to view as "lol ignorant".  LIke some weird Besaid redneck.  Although I will admit by the end of the game he did change noticably into a much more favorable character (though it was kind of abrupt, no?)

I think I said it before, but I have a love/hate relationship with Kimahri.  On the one hand, he's the game's blue mage, so he's automatically pretty cool.  On the other they overplayed his whole "picked on by his peers" thing.  It was a total sidestory to the game and had almost no relation to the actual storyline itself.  It's not necessarily bad, but it's kind of hollow and vapid and misses out on a lot of Kimahri's potential.  Plus sometimes he does get annoying (nothing big, just kind of the way Ronso's talk in general it's like 'ugh')

My friend who likes Wakka, he and a friend of his utterly DESPISE Kimahri.  I forget the original reason was but as they played the game (together, they live like across teh street) they grew to hat ehim more and more.  Something kind of festered, I dunno.  They once told me about the time they kept intentionally zombifying Kimahri because they claimed it made hmi a better character overall.  That made me laugh XD


And yes, Lulu fighting with the dolls = win.  Plus her ultimate weapon WAS AN ONION KID YES GOGOGOGO FF3j!!!

And Auron spits his sake on his sword for that one Overdrive move.  That's just classy.  So is being a ghost (even if FFX's/south asia's concepts of dying and spirits is kind of weird, especially in the FFX universe) and the using one sleeve of his robe thing.

Also, just in case anybody hasn't noticed, Lulu's got a nice rack.  Just in case you missed that.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 13, 2006, 11:28:17 pm

eh, i wasn't a big fan of Kimahri either.  first of all, he had a weird starting point on the sphere grid (which i thought was actually a pretty cool leveling system - it was something new, and although you could eventually get everyone to learn everything, it took a WHILE for you to do it, even with the special spheres), so it was kinda up in the air as to which way to make him progress.  second, if he's supposed to be a blue mage, then shouldn't he ALWAYS have access to his blue magic instead of only being able to use it as an overdrive power??  Kimahri not strong!  Broken horn make Kimahri retarded and talk like caveman!  >=P

Lulu was cool too, especially with the doll weapons (nothing like attacking with a Cactuar doll to cause instant death, lol) and the bustyness, although i had mixed impressions about her goth-ish look - it was cool and different-looking (all those damn belts, lol), but not all that attractive...

Auron was pretty pimp.  i really liked his character, and his Tornado overdrive was probably the coolest-looking out of all of the overdrive moves, save for the summons' overdrives and Kimahri's Supernova (of course i never used it that often since Kimahri SUCKS...).

speaking of summons, i also enjoyed how they made them much more interactive in X rather than like simple spells in the older Final Fantasies.  Anima and Yojimbo were pretty cool, along with the mainstream ones like Bahamut and Ifrit.  i also heard that the Magus Sisters were in a previous Final Fantasy game...

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 13, 2006, 11:42:19 pm

They were, Tetsaru. To my knowledge, they were in FF4 as a mini boss in the tower of Zot. Valvalsis's minions.

First thing you want to do is to kill the plump purple one. She can revive her sisters in a jiffy. Then you may want to kill the tall one, because she can annoy you alot. Then kill the small one, cause although she fights good, she can really annoy you. How you kill the remaining sisters is up to you, but kill the plump one first.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 14, 2006, 04:38:24 am

Quote from: LordRyunson on September 13, 2006, 11:42:19 pm

They were, Tetsaru. To my knowledge, they were in FF4 as a mini boss in the tower of Zot. Valvalsis's minions.

What he said.

Whoa, mini-FF4 flashback to Tower of Zot.  T_T I miss the good ol' days.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: ROMate on September 14, 2006, 11:36:05 am

I liked Auron's baseball overdrive. Knockin' Malboros out of the park is the too much fun.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 14, 2006, 07:32:41 pm

Quote from: HGsIndestruc.Roommate on September 14, 2006, 11:36:05 am

I liked Auron's baseball overdrive. Knockin' Malboros out of the park is the too much fun.

lol, yeah, 'cept i loved doing it to those damn Cactuars.  ejection is always fun to perform... unless it's being done to you (one reason why i hated Ruby Weapon from FF7 so much).

that also reminds me of Paine's class on X-2 (i think it was beastmaster or something like that) where she had a bird, and one of its moves allowed it to grab an enemy and fly off with 'em.  it was hilarious carrying off the really huge enemies...  XD

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on September 14, 2006, 07:49:36 pm

Hey guys whats Final Fantasy

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: HMD on September 14, 2006, 07:54:56 pm

Some Role Playing game. You'd be amazed at how much FF7 ripped off Phantasy Star 4.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 14, 2006, 07:57:43 pm

Quote from: The Great Will on September 14, 2006, 07:49:36 pm

Hey guys whats Final Fantasy

it's just some silly little loli-yaoi hentai that's all the rage on torrent servers across the net nowadays...  nothing you'd be interested in, Will.  =3

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 14, 2006, 10:19:08 pm

Never played Phantasy Star 4. How is FF7 ripping it off?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: HMD on September 14, 2006, 10:27:49 pm

It's pretty much just the general plot. The main character is a blonde haired mercenary who teams up with a female brunette who gets killed by Zio, a long haired magician who's pretty much just an evil guy controlled by a higher power (Dark Force/Lassic). There's also stopping calamities (FF7 had Meteor, while PS4 had earthquakes).

There's some smaller deatils, like going into outer space, but that's just grabbing for straws. It's been awhile since I played PS4, so I'll have to go and look for some more comparisons.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 14, 2006, 10:36:08 pm

PS4 was okay, but the PS's before it were better (actually I've never played PS3 >_>)

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Ellendesu on September 14, 2006, 10:38:27 pm

lol, loli-yaoi has a name. It's called SHOTAKON

=P

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 15, 2006, 02:23:42 am

Quote from: Lil' Will on September 14, 2006, 10:38:27 pm

lol, loli-yaoi has a name. It's called SHOTAKON

=P

well thanks for informing me, Will.  i'll try to remember that the next time i go pronz-hunting so i'll know what NOT to look for.  >XP

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: R-9 on September 15, 2006, 07:00:57 am

Quote from: Bang Doll on September 14, 2006, 10:36:08 pm

PS4 was okay, but the PS's before it were better (actually I've never played PS3 >_>)

PS3 is probably the weakest game in the series.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 15, 2006, 01:07:25 pm

Quote from: Lil' Will on September 14, 2006, 10:38:27 pm

lol, loli-yaoi has a name. It's called SHOTAKON

=P

I thought Shota was mostly for young boys with older women and/or their mothers?  So I thought it was loli-incest if anything (though loli/lolita for some reason always sounds like young female; and if anything the male equivalent was "shota" but I don't know that much about it)

I would think loli-yaoi would be homosexual relations between two young boys/two young girls.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: King Zarkon on September 15, 2006, 05:10:35 pm

ok, allow me to clarify the lexicon.

shotacon = mother/son incest.

lolicon = prepubecent girls/boys in sexual poses or situtions.

yaoi = (literal translation) beautiful men. in other words, gay guys.

yuri = (literal translation) lilly flower. i.e. lesbianism.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 15, 2006, 05:30:19 pm

Quote from: Ol' Dirty Heirophant on September 15, 2006, 05:10:35 pm

ok, allow me to clarify the lexicon.

shotacon = mother/son incest.

lolicon = prepubecent girls/boys in sexual poses or situtions.

yaoi = (literal translation) beautiful men. in other words, gay guys.

yuri = (literal translation) lilly flower. i.e. lesbianism.

Wow.

I'm not sure if I should put any of THAT in my fics.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Shichigusa on September 15, 2006, 08:44:00 pm

Quote from: Ol' Dirty Heirophant on September 15, 2006, 05:10:35 pm

ok, allow me to clarify the lexicon.

shotacon = mother/son incest.

lolicon = prepubecent girls/boys in sexual poses or situtions.

yaoi = (literal translation) beautiful men. in other words, gay guys.

yuri = (literal translation) lilly flower. i.e. lesbianism.

Lolicon (short for "Lolita Complex") - named after the book Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov in which a man becomes sexually obsessed with a young girl. Basically, porno that involves young girls.

Shotacon/kon (named after the most popular name for boys in Japan) - the young boy equivalent.

Yaoi - an acronym explained here --->http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~uz9y-ab/y_history.htm
When used, it describes male/male relationships involving sex. The softcore term is shounen-ai.

Yuri - female/female relationships involving sex. The softcore term is shoujo-ai.


I'm glad I read The Anime Companion, by Gilles Poitras, a few years ago.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 15, 2006, 10:16:58 pm

In my last post, I was wondering if any of those types of mayhem into my fics. Imagine the look on Mimi's face when she faces a Yaoi friendly duo of tag team duelists! Or is that virtually not possible?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 16, 2006, 01:16:17 am

Quote from: Ol' Dirty Heirophant on September 15, 2006, 05:10:35 pm

ok, allow me to clarify the lexicon.

shotacon = mother/son incest.

lolicon = prepubecent girls/boys in sexual poses or situtions.

yaoi = (literal translation) beautiful men. in other words, gay guys.

yuri = (literal translation) lilly flower. i.e. lesbianism.

See that's what I thought the whole time, except instead

lolicon = prepubescent girls in sexual poses or situations.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: King Zarkon on September 16, 2006, 01:52:05 am

Quote from: Shichigusa on September 15, 2006, 08:44:00 pm

Lolicon (short for "Lolita Complex") - named after the book Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov in which a man becomes sexually obsessed with a young girl. Basically, porno that involves young girls.

the book lolita is about a man that becomes a sexual victim of his daughter. read the book. she manipulates him.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Kiinan Yamasu on September 16, 2006, 02:13:01 am

In any case, the book still has to do with pedophiles that are fucking immature assholes.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: LordRyunson on September 16, 2006, 03:08:01 am

How said, seeing I might not do some loli things for a while, although lolipops are nice....

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 16, 2006, 05:53:00 am

Quote from: Ol' Dirty Heirophant on September 16, 2006, 01:52:05 am

the book lolita is about a man that becomes a sexual victim of his daughter. read the book. she manipulates him.

Tell that to modern society.

Edit:  Wait, the lolita wasn't his daughter iirc.

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: King Zarkon on September 16, 2006, 09:15:23 am

it never directly comes out and says it but it is implyed that lolita is his daughter

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Guy on September 16, 2006, 11:12:11 am

I never played Final Fantas...
Is it good? >__<

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on September 18, 2006, 01:42:31 pm

Quote from: Guy on September 16, 2006, 11:12:11 am

I never played Final Fantas...
Is it good? >__<

oh my God, you've never played ANY of them???  they're fucking awesome, man!  i can't wait for my reserved copy of the limited edition FFXII to come out on Halloween!  =3

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: MMX on September 18, 2006, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: Guy on September 16, 2006, 11:12:11 am

I never played Final Fantas...
Is it good? >__<

I'm waiting for the punchline.

Is it something like "but i've played Final Fantasy"?

Title: Re: The Great Mystery that is "Final Fantasy VII"
Post by: Hyperguy on September 18, 2006, 10:21:23 pm

Moved to Revenge of the D-Pad.