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Non-Sogna/VIPER Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: tetsaru arigashi on May 10, 2006, 04:44:08 pm
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just curious if anyone played any type of trading card games such as these. feel free to post any decklists or card game related stuff. if this thread starts getting popular enough, i may share some of my own decklists.
and NO, this is NOT a thread to discuss the Yugioh ANIME, because it SUCKS, and the actual card game is MUCH DIFFERENT (just my personal opinion, so don't flame me if you DO like the series). also, if there are any other anime-related card games you want to talk about, i'd appreciate it if no one bashes each other for playing a card game related to an anime series that a lot of people hate (for example, i think Inuyasha has a card game out now, and i know that most people either love or hate Inuyasha, so don't make fun of someone simply if someone enjoys playing the card game based off of Inuyasha). just wanted to clear that up and avoid any unneccessary posting.
btw, this is the first thread i've started on this forum, so bear with my seemingly strict introductions... i just want to avoid some conflicts, that's all. >_<;
ok... start posting, dammit!...if you're interested... >=P
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fear Deck-Zilla (http://www.crossworlds.us/index.php?topic=624.0)
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hmm, a TCG forum? it's not letting me lurk, lol... guess i'll have to register sometime. =/
in the meantime, feel free to type out your decklists if that's what you wanted to show me.
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I used to play Magic all the time about 10 years ago, back when Revised and 4th were the basic sets (and Ice Age if you count that as a basic set and not an expansion)
Then WotC started blowing up with all the expansions and ruined it for everyone.
My brother and I still whip out our decks every so often to play against each other. Our decks havent changed much in 7 or 8 years I imagine though sometimes we mix it up to try something new - like the all common deck or the no more than 1 of any non-land card deck. Each of us has three decks we usually play, and we select them randomly before a match so we don't know which ones we or our opponent will have until we square off.
The weakest of his is a green-red deck that mostly tries to build up a big fireball or disintegrate or lightning bolt you to death. His middle strength deck is all black discard deck. His strongest deck is mostly blue-white with emphasis on counterspelling and slight of minding things like circles of protection to make him or his creatures immune to whatever color I'm playing.
The weakest of mine is almost entirely artifacts, just to bust up his slight of mind deck. Better is all green, built not for speed but for longevity (all hail Llurgoyf in long games). My strongest is probably my white deck, with Serra Angels and Veteran Bodyguards backed by cards to increase stats like blessing, castle and angelic voices and yet other cards to force the opponent to swap defending or attacking creatures like General Jarkeld. I get Jarkeld out with a pumped up Angel or two and its usually a win for me.
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hmm, a TCG forum? it's not letting me lurk, lol... guess i'll have to register sometime. =/
in the meantime, feel free to type out your decklists if that's what you wanted to show me.
you'll have to join my board to see it i guess, since it took me three posts to get up
yes, it's that big
what else do you call a deck that size, that can atually win?
*note* the deck was built for group brawls, not one on one dueling
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I play Magic,but it's been awhile since me and my friends played it,my buddys are busy right now,we're getting ready for a wedding(my best friend is getting hitched on the 20th),plus they've introduced me to the Inuyasha game,which is very fun.
I used to play Yugioh,and no offense to any Yugi players,but alot of us thought the game got too complicated with the rules,and various cards kept going on the banned list,off,then on again.Inuyasha's ruels are much easier to work with,and Magic's aren't too bad.
I've also got a bunch of the cards from Megaman NT Warrior.I never got to play the game with anyone,likewise TMNT,but i have all my NT Warrior and TMNT cards in a collector's binder.I also have alot of the Sailor Moon CCG cards in a collector's binder,also.It's a shame the game got cancelled before they could make cards of Professor Tomoe and the Death-Busters from Sailor Moon S.
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I play Magic the Gathering, I resell Yugi-Oh cards, and I play the original Star Wars CCG, of which I have about 700 something cards.
Ya'll want any Yugi Oh cards? I probably have them.
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i'm always interested in buying cards, of course some specifics would be nice. thing is, i just started my new job and i don't have any money yet, not to mention a credit or debit card... =/
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I used to play Magic: The Gathering all of the time in high school.
Nowadays I just want to get rid of my collection.
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i'm always interested in buying cards, of course some specifics would be nice. thing is, i just started my new job and i don't have any money yet, not to mention a credit or debit card... =/
Well specifics aside, PM me with a list of cards you are interested in, and I'll cut you a good deal.
I have quite a few that people appear to be after.
right now I'm selling off
-The Creator : Limited Edition
- Panther Warrior: Limited Edition
and
Elemental Hero Wildedge: 1st Edition
Among hundreds of other things I get through various wholesale sources which I'm not telling you.
Hit me up with a PM and I'll see if I have your cards.
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hey tetsaru, i'm glad you dig the sig i did for ya. i happen to play mtg i have several decks, two of which are tournament wining.
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yeah, thanks again, heirophant. i kinda have an idea for my own nanako sig (as well as a tifa avatar), but i doubt my computer could handle the stuff i'd need to do it. =/ btw, cute avatar there, what's it from??
all right, i'm gonna post my decks as they are now. i haven't played in a while, so they're probably a little un-updated. lemme know what you guys think:
YUGIOH TRADITIONAL FORMAT CHAOS DECK
- black luster soldier - envoy of the beginning
- chaos emperor dragon - envoy of the end
- chaos sorceror
- guardian angel joan
- jinzo
- dark ruler ha des
- d.d. warrior lady
- d.d. assailant
- d.d. survivor
- d.d. guide
- d.d. scout plane
- banisher of the light x 2
- kycoo the ghost destroyer
- breaker the magical warrior
- gren maju da eiza
- witch of the black forest
- sangan
- magical merchant x 2
- greenkappa
- night assailant
- magician of faith
- cyber jar
- soul absorption x 3
- soul release x 3
- dimension fusion
- painful choice
- graceful charity
- pot of greed
- monster reborn
- change of heart
- mystical space typhoon
- harpie's feather duster
- raigeki
- skull lair x 2
- return from the different dimension x 2
- interdimensional matter transporter
- fiend comedian
- bottomless trap hole
- dust tornado
- sakuretsu armor
- mirror force
- ring of destruction
the main focus with this deck is to remove as many cards from play as possible with soul release, skull lair, banisher of the light, etc. while soul absorption is on the field. if i have all three of them out, i can gain 7500 life points from using just one soul release! i've got some karma cuts from the new shadow of infinity set recently that i'll probably add, and if i ever get a bazoo the soul eater, i'll probably throw him in too.
YUGIOH ADVANCED FORMAT WATER DECK
- ocean dragon lord - neo-daedalus
- levia dragon - daedalus x 2
- mobius the frost monarch
- giga gagagigo
- b.e.s. crystal core
- catapult turtle
- amphibious bugroth mk-3 x 3
- nightmare penguin x 3
- mother grizzly x 3
- penguin soldier x 2
- familiar-possessed - eria x 2
- mermaid knight
- maiden of the aqua
- abyss soldier
- aqua spirit
- a legendary ocean x 3
- terraforming
- salvage x 2
- swords of revealing light
- premature burial
- brain control
- snatch steal
- creature swap
- lightning vortex
- dark hole
- mystical space typhoon
- giant trunade x 2
- gravity bind x 2
- tornado wall x 2
- spiritual water art - aoi
- solemn wishes
- call of the haunted
- torrential tribute
- dust tornado x 2
this is a basic yugioh "legendary ocean" deck, personally tweaked to my preferences. lots of card-bouncing and control, and using gravity bind with a legendary ocean is always mean - try summoning a 2650 attacker with no tributes! what's ALSO mean is using swords of revealing light, waiting until the 2nd turn of its effect, use a giant trunade, and then play swords again. then do it again if you have another giant trunade! opponent = OMFGPISSEDLOL >XD
MAGIC: THE GATHERING STANDARD(?) FORMAT BLUE-BLACK DECK
- island x 11
- swamp x 8
- dimir aqueduct x 3
- duskmantle, house of shadow
- waterveil cavern
- oboro, palace in the clouds
- phantom warrior x 2
- thieving magpie x 3
- surveilling sprite
- daring apprentice
- graceful adept
- puppeteer
- archivist
- spawnbroker
- hisoka's guard
- ghost-lit warder
- drift of phantasms
- shape stealer
- kami of the crescent moon
- thought courier
- index
- telepathy
- freed from the real
- confiscate
- boomerang x 3
- remove soul x 3
- muddle the mixture
- mana leak x 3
- hinder x 2
- thoughtbind
- rewind x 2
- royal assassin
- dimir house guard
- wicked akuba
- stinkweed imp
- nezumi ronin
- seizan, perverter of truth
- vigor mortis
- strands of undeath
- dimir guildmage
- dimir doppelganger
- circu, dimir lobotomist
- szadek, lord of secrets
- perplex
- dimir signet x 3
- kraken's eye x 2
- sensei's diving top
um, yeah. this is my magic deck. yes, it is very big (80 cards, to be exact...50 for my yugioh decks) and only decently playable. there isn't really a theme to this deck, other than the fact that it is blue-black. i used to run mono-blue, and then ravnica came out, so i started running some of the dimir cards. anyway, i'll probably end up deconstructing this deck and making a REAL dimir deck, plus an izzet deck, a simic deck, and an azorius deck. hell, i may even go for a multi-guild deck if i'm crazy enough. also, i have some of the older cards that one of my friends gave me, so i may just ditch the whole standard format build and make whatever my messed-up mind comes up with, provided i have the right cards - my yugioh collection is significantly larger than my magic collection, since i only started magic just a couple of years back, probably around the time mirrodin came out.
well, there you have it. let's cuss and discuss.
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I'm sorry tetsu, your decks are weak. Your gonna need to run a maximum of 40 cards for almost any deck. Also, your only half playable deck is the chaos deck, which is banned from Advanced format aka the only true format. Water decks don't fly well at tournaments after maybe hte first game or two, and with no draw power like Graceful Charity in the water deck you might not get your hands on some cards you need. But what do I know, I can't really insult fun decks when I play Gearfried the Swordmaster/Blast with Chain, lol.
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hmm, my decks are weak, are they?? well, i admit i haven't played a lot recently (mostly casual play anyway), and i haven't had a lot of time to really sit down and tweak them. as far as the size of my decks, i personally like having slightly larger decks, as i believe they give me more resources and versatility. if i DID add in some more draw power, as you say (as well as some "tutor" cards, which i already have 3 mother grizzlies and a sangan in my water deck, btw), then the size shouldn't be too much of a problem. also, as far as my chaos deck goes, more cards in my deck = more cards i can remove from play and gain life from. also, i wouldn't wanna "deck out" with my 2 magical merchants, even though that DOES kinda seem unlikely. i AM gonna gonna shrink my magic deck(s) that i plan on making in the future - i already dismantled the one i posted earlier, and i'm trying to get all my stuff sorted. i doubt i can make exactly what i have in mind, but i'll try to come up with something.
in the meantime, why dontcha post YOUR decklists, ~Shinta? gotta back yourself up if you're gonna talk smack, lol. >=D you said you run gearfried the swordmaster, so you're probably running a "warrior toolbox" deck. those are pretty good - i had a friend who ran one.
oh yeah - and PLEASE, spell my name correctly next time... "tetsu" just sounds... weird... >_<;
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well since there seems to be a problem with linking directly to my board, i guess i'll just do it the hard way
Deck # 1
Deck Name - Deck-zilla
Colors Used - Rainbow (all colors)
Win/Loss - Vs. - never kept track
Win/Loss - Group - never kept track
Win/Loss - Tournament -0/0
Cards Used In Deck
Mana:
mountains x 40
plains x 40
islands x 40
swamps x 40
forests x 103
Mercadian Bazaar x 2
Saprazzan Cove x 3
Rushwood Grove
Subterranean Hanger x 4
Fountain of Cho x 3
Strip Mine
Treva's Ruins
Windswept Hearth
Irrigation Ditch
Flooded Strand
Lonely Sandbar
Secluded Steppe
Vec Townships
Cinder Marsh
Daru Encampment
Mogg Hollows
Brushland
Blasted Landscape
Salt Marsh
Coastal Tower
Sulfurous Springs
Thalakos Lowlands
Abandoned Outpost x 2
Terminal Moraine x 2
Archaeological Dig x 3
Urbog Volcano x 2
Tranquil Thicket x 2
Barren Moor x 3
Timberland Ruins x 3
Temple of the False Gods x 3
Shivan Oasis x 4
Elfhame Palace x 4
Forgotten Cave x 4
Crosois's Catacombs x 2
Rith's Grove x 4
Darigaaz's Caldera
Dromar's Cavern x 2
Forsaken City
Thran Quarry
Seafloor Debris
Ebon Stronghold
Ruins of Trokair
An-havva Township
Aysen Abbey
Koskun Keep
Castle Sengir
Wizards' School
Crystal Vein
Urza's Tower
Geothermal Crevice
Starlit Sanctum
Winding Canyons
Grand Coliseum
Forbidding Watchtower
Shivan Gorge
Volrath's Stronghold
Gaea's Cradle
Tower of the Magistrate
Phyrexian Tower
Pendelhaven
Red
Mob Justice x 3
Keldon Mantle x 2
Thunderscape Battlemage x 2
Rupture x 2
Shivan Dragon x 2
Collapsing Borders x 2
Obliterate x 2
Dragonspeaker Shaman
Fanning the Flames
Flashfires
Slice and Dice
Volcanic Dragon
Gratuitous Violence
Shiv's Embrace
Lavaborn Muse
Mana Echoes
Pyrostatic Pillar
Dragonstorm
Kaboom!
Desolation Giant
Erratic Explosion
Dragon Roost
Lightning Dragon
Scattershot
Relentless Assult
Lavamancer's Skill
White
Congregate x 4
Serra's Embrace x 3
Warship x 3
Sheild of Duty and Reason x 3
Wall off Hope x 2
Spirit Link x 2
Karmic Justice x 2
Demystify x 2
Improvised Armor x 2
Wipe Clean x 2
Divine Light x 2
Angelic Chorus x 2
Avenging Angel x 2
Sunscape Battlemage x 2
Sacred Mesa x 2
Grassland Crusader x 2
Angelic Renewal
Disenchant
March of Souls
Testament of Faith
Serra Angel
Serra Aviary
Spirit of resistance
Astral Steel
Aegis of Honor
Dimensional Breach
Jareth, Leonine Titan
Circle of Protection: Shadow
Rune of Protection: Artifacts
Celestial Dawn
Reprisal
Animal Boneyard
Indestructible Aura
Force Bubble
Dragon Scales
Glorious Anthem
Words of Worship
Magenta the Lion
Eternal Dragon
Samite Elder
Dragonstalker
Aura Extraction
Divine Sacrament
Divine Transformation
Dominaria's Judgment
Reverse Polarity
Global Ruin
Relic Ward
Alabaster Potion
Wall of Swords
Rain of Blades
Akroma's Vengance
Noble Purpose
Doubtless One
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Deck-zilla, part 2
Blue
Diplomatic Immunity x 4
Counterspell x 4
Dragon Wings x 3
Shifting Sky x 3
Zaphid's Embrace x 2
Mystic Veil x 2
Rush of Knowladge x 2
Ixidor's Will x 2
Dispersal Sheild x 2
Mana Maze
Lilting Refrain
Unnatural Selection
Denizen of the Deep
Avatar of Will
Standstill
Quicksilver Dragon
Soothsaying
Insight
Frozen Solid
Discombobulate
Power Sink
Sway of Illusion
Unifying Theory
Blind Seer
Flight
Rayne, Academy Chancellor
Deflection
Brain Freeze
Long-Term Plans
Mana Short
Empress Galina
bBlack
Twisted Abomination x 3
Dragon Shadow x 2
Vengeful Dead x 2
Sheperd of Rot x 2
Aphetto Dredging x 2
Severed Legion x 2
Visara the Dreadful x 2
Exotic Disease x 2
Caustic Tar
Haunted Crossroads
Unspeakable Symbol
Words of Waste
Bone Knitter
Forced March
Twilights Call
Eradicate
Gluttonous Zombie
Disterbed Burial
Call to the Grave
Reaping the Graves
Final Punishment
Sadistic Glee
Subversion
Grave Pact
Pretenders Claim
Soul Collector
Deathgrip
Decree of Pain
Liability
Gold (multi-color)
Armadillo Cloak x 4
Gaea's Skyfolk x 4
Squee's embrace x 3
Llanowar Dead x 3
Sterling Grove x 2
Aether Mutation x 2
Gerrard's Command x 2
Soul Link x 2
Llanowar Knight
Vitalizing Cascade
Death Grasp
Hero's Reunion
Frenzied Tilling
Chromium
Treva, the Renewer
Tsabo Tavoc
Darigaaz, the Igniter
Aura Shards
Yavimaya's Embrace
Undermine
Captains's Manuver
Edgewalker
Rith, the Awakener
Rith's Charm
Yavimaya Barbarian
Sliver Overlord
Eladamri's Call
Cromat
Hymm of Rebirth
Hull Breach
Colorless
Urza's Armor x 4
Braidwood Cup x 4
Liberary of Leng x 3
Crystal Chimes x 3
Drake-Skull Cameo x 2
Tigereye Cameo x 2
Seashell Cameo x 2
Bloodstone Cameo x 2
Feldon's Cane x 2
Dragon Blood x 2
Worn Powerstone x 2
Pit Trap x 2
Magma Mine x 2
Belbe's Portal x 2
Nevinyrral's Disk
Howling Mine
Thran Forge
Karn, Silver Golem
Soul Net
Shadowblood Egg
Phyrexian Processor
Charcoal Diamond
Marble Diamond
Urza's Incubator
Phyrexian Splicer
Amber Prison
Dream Chisel
Thran Dynamo
Chimeric Staff
Lifeline
Sisay's Ring
Thran Weaponry
Tsabo's Web
Mystic Compass
Moss Diamond
Skull of Ramos
Mana Prism
Ersatz Gnomes
Magistrate's Scepter
Temporal Aperture
Troll-Horn Cameo
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and finally, the
Green
Wirewood Channeler x 4
Wirewood Herald x 4
Defiant Elf x 4
Everglove Courier x 4
Elvish Lyrist x 4
Kurgadon x 4
Ancestral Mask x 4
Sprouting Vines x 4
Gempalm Strider x 4
Rancor x 4
Wirewood Elf x 4
Quirion Explorer x 4
Exoskeletal Armor x 4
Elvish Pioneer x 4
Preist of Titania x 4
Stonewood Invoker x 4
Elvish Pathcutter x 4
Wirewood Hivemaster x 4
Wellwisher x 4
Krosan Drover x 4
Patron of the Wild x 4
quirion Elves x 4
Urbog Elf x 4
Fierce Empath x 4
Stream of Life x 4
Elven Riders x 4
Tranquil Path x 3
Skyshroud Troopers x 3
Elvish Aberration x 3
Dragon Fangs x 3
Natural Affinity x 3
Fyndhorn Elder x 3
Titanic Bulvox x 3
Tribal Forcemage x 3
Taunting Elf x 3
Lure x 3
Regeneration x 3
Timberwatch Elf x 3
Break Asunder x 3
Accelerated Mutation x 3
Bloodline Shaman x 3
Wirewood Guardian x 3
Skyshroud Elf x 2
Tangle x 2
Alpha Status x 2
Wirewood Pride x 2
Wirewood Savage x 2
Elvish Soultiller x 2
Birchlore Rangers x 2
Argothian Elder x 2
Pulse of Lanowar x 2
Fog x 2
Venom x 2
Revive x 2
Treetop Scout x 2
Tiger Claws x 2
Jolrael's Favor x 2
Primal Growth x 2
Savaen Elves x 2
Desert Twister x 2
Elvish Warrior x 2
Hunting Pack x 2
Symbiotic Beast x 2
Elvish Champion x 2
Totem Speaker x 2
Seaker of Skybreak x 2
Elvish Scrapper x 2
Hurricane x 2
Thornscape Battlemage x 2
Elvish Herder x 2
Leery Fogbeast x 2
Heedless One x 2
Symbiotic Elf x 2
Exploration x 2
Untamed Wilds
Multani's Decree
Defence of the Heart
Verdeloth the Ancient
Elven Fortress
Midsummer Revel
An-havva Inn
Vitalizing Wind
Overrun
Pack Hunt
Root Elemental
Tranquility
Early Harvest
Kamahl's Summons
Venomspout Brackus
Squirrel Nest
Pipers Melody
Lifeforce
Claws of Wirewood
Centaur Glade
Tempting Licid
Mythic Proportions
Thrive
Scyshroud Ranger
Gaea's Herald
Snag
Blanchwood Armor
Elven Cache
Brontotherium
Seton's Desire
Llanowar Druid
Thorn Elemental
Krosan Groundshaker
Calming Verse
Woodcloaker
Skyshroud Poacher
Nature's Resurgence
Silklash Spider
Glowering Rogon
Root Cage
Skyshroud Elite
Gaea's Embrace
Llanowar Sentinel
Weaherseed Elf
Timberwatch Elf
Caller of the Hunt
Sporogenesis
Titania's Chosen
Divergent Growth
Multani's Presence
Nemata, Grove Guardian
Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
Multani's Acolyte
Ancient Ooze
Naturalize
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and yes, that is all a single deck
like i said before, what else can you call it, but Deck-zilla?
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WOW, that IS huge. i think magic: the gathering online has a format called "prismatic" which uses huge decks with all 5 colors - you might check into it. of course, you'd probably have to spend a shitload of money to buy digital versions of all your cards, though... >_<;
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I can quite garuantee the win-loss ratio on such a monstrosity will never be in favor of the Ws. Goodness gracious, even when we used to play all color decks, we'd build them around our Gold strengths (Legends or Dark Heart of the Wood) We wouldnt just throw in every peice of garbage that looked good.
I've seen someone whip some tail with a 4 color deck though - everything but black I beleive. But it had rare and exotic cards up the wazoo. Dual lands and birds of paradise for mana wealth, circles of protection and slights of mind for protection, counterspells and control magics, and lightning bolts and disintegrates for direct damage. It had surpsingly few summons other than those that could serve more than one purpose (such as mana creation). As long as it wasn't beaten down before it got rolling or Tranquility never made it to the table before being countered it usually won.
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thats why it's set up for group play rather than one on one duels
everyone worrys about the guy with the burn deck, untill they see my elf horde help me call out the big guns for a stomp-a-thon
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I do not play Money: The Wasting. I DO play Yu-Gi-Oh, though, but my only even remotely decent cards are Thousand Dragon and Chaos Command Magician.
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I found out today that people play Magic: The Gathering regularly at a local bookstore in town. Will this motivate me to pick it up again in an effort to crush 30 and 20 something year olds in the dust?
Hells no, I'm going to see if I can sell them my cards.
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I do not play Money: The Wasting. I DO play Yu-Gi-Oh, though, but my only even remotely decent cards are Thousand Dragon and Chaos Command Magician.
shoot, i've probably wasted more money on yugioh stuff myself, although i admit i started yugioh LONG before i got into magic. i remember buying so many packs of the "invasion of chaos" set trying to get a black luster soldier: envoy of the beginning, chaos emperor dragon: envoy of the end, or a dark magician of chaos. i finally got the first two through trading, though... and now they're banned in advanced format... >_<;
...which reminds me, if i ever get some copies of the promo cards from that one 2006 yugioh game that came out recently, i may try to make an advanced-legal version of my old chaos deck. here's some links to the cards i'm talking about. i just wish they made an american version of the last one - they didn't have a translation posted...
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16913 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16913)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16914 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16914)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16915 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=722&ID=16915)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=29&ID=16728 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=29&ID=16728)
hopefully before too long, i'll have some of the decks i've been trying to make ready. right now, my job and a lack of some specific cards have kinda kept me from making much progress. =/ here's a list of the decks i'm trying to make:
for magic standard format:
- green/white/blue deck focused around +1/+1 counters and creature tokens
- blue/red izzet deck
- blue/black dimir deck
for yugioh advanced format:
- a new chaos deck
- a "tune-up" for my water deck
- elemental heroes deck
- insect deck
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'sup guys, thought i'd revive this thread, seeing how i've got some news. i managed to attend the pre-release event of Yugioh's new "Power of the Duelist" expansion a few days ago over in North Little Rock. i participated in a sealed tournament, and ended up decently well with 2 wins and 2 losses, both of which were very close - had i lasted one more turn on my last duel, i would've decked out my opponent, but luckily for him he managed to bring out the Ultimate Tyranno (3000 ATK 2-tribute monster that must attack ALL of your opponents monsters simultaneously at the beginning of the battle phase) he got from his packs and pretty much owned my face, lol. as my luck would have it, i pulled no holofoils from my packs, although i DID get some pretty good cards.
i also fixed my old chaos deck for advanced format. take a look:
MONSTERS x18
- d.d. warrior lady
- d.d. assailant
- d.d. survivor
- d.d. scout plane
- banisher of the light x2
- banisher of the radiance
- kycoo the ghost destroyer
- helios - the primordial sun
- exarion universe
- breaker the magical warrior
- gren maju da eiza
- chaosrider gustaph
- tsukuyomi
- spirit reaper
- sangan
- magician of faith
- magical merchant
TRIBUTE/SPECIAL SUMMON MONSTERS x5
- helios duo megistus
- golden homunculus
- guardian angel joan
- majestic mech - goryu
- chaos sorcerer
SPELLS x15
- soul release x3
- soul absorption x3
- dimensional fissure
- nobleman of crossout
- grand convergence
- card destruction
- mystical space typhoon
- lightning vortex
- graceful charity
- swords of revealing light
- snatch steal
TRAPS x12
- macro cosmos x2
- karma cut x2
- elemental absorber
- bottomless trap hole
- interdimensional matter transporter
- return from the different dimension x2
- dust tornado
- mirror force
- hidden soldiers (the new promo card i got at the pre-release! - when your opponent normal/flip summons a monster, you can special summon a level 4 or lower dark monster from your hand!)
TOTAL: 50
well, there it is - lemme know what you Yugioh duelists think. i'm wanting to get a bazoo the soul eater, a dark magician of chaos, and a cyber dragon in there eventually. actually, i pulled a cyber dragon from my very first pack of cybernetic revolution, but i foolishly traded it off because i didn't realize how good it was at the time... >_<;
i'm still working on my water deck (i'm still needing two hydroggedons, mainly), and i'm hoping to build a machine deck soon. i have all the VWXYZ fusions now, but i'm needing a bunch of the cyber dragon and ancient gear cards, as well as a few others...
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I got out of Yugioh,the rules were wya too confusing for me,however i still have alot of Magic cards,but i need to make a new deck with them,it's been a bit since i played.My friends have introduced me to the Inuyasha game though,it was real easy for me to learn.I also have a ton of cards from the TMNT and Sailor Moon games.
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i do agree that Yugioh's rules can get VERY complicated and annoying sometimes, and i also don't like the fact that some cards (such as D.D. Warrior Lady) are so broken that they can be thrown in practically ANY deck. the numerous erratas that have been made are also quite frustrating (i had to take out the skull lairs in my chaos deck as a result). i've also recently heard about how a lot of former duelists were complaining that the whole GX thing ruined the game as well. i enjoy Yugioh, but it still has a LONG way to go before it gets as balanced as Magic is, although some of the new structure decks and expansions are slowly providing support for the various creature types.
if anyone still has any decks they want to post, or wants to brag/complain about their collection, i'm all ears.
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Do video games based on card games count?
I could only really get into SNK vs Capcom: Card Fighters Clash on the NGPC.
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Do video games based on card games count?
I could only really get into SNK vs Capcom: Card Fighters Clash on the NGPC.
Even though my old NGPC could only let me do one battle, I still say that one rocked.
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Do video games based on card games count?
eh, i was kinda thinking more along the lines of the actual trading card games, but i guess that's okay. i was just wanting to know if there was anyone else on this forum who enjoys throwing their money away towards a huge card collection or building a new deck as much as i do, lol...
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eh, i was kinda thinking more along the lines of the actual trading card games, but i guess that's okay. i was just wanting to know if there was anyone else on this forum who enjoys throwing their money away towards a huge card collection or building a new deck as much as i do, lol...
Well,i still have to make a decent deck,it's been awhile since i last played Magic...though i am getting a bigger collection of Star Wars minis,making armies with them and such.So,i can relate a bit to what you mean,Tetsaru....lol
The only card game-video games i got into were Metal Gear Acid (PSP) and Phantasy Star Online Episode 3- CARD Revolution (Gamecube)
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i used to play YUGIOH.... I followd it until most of kickass cards got banned like the all mighty Jinzo, Fairy Injection Lily, and Rageki...Whats the point of playing it when you cant win the other guy's valuable cards in one turn?
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i used to play YUGIOH.... I followd it until most of kickass cards got banned like the all mighty Jinzo, Fairy Injection Lily, and Rageki...Whats the point of playing it when you cant win the other guy's valuable cards in one turn?
The objection i have to that is when someone purposely makes an entire deck around defeating an opponent in one turn.When i first played Yugioh,someone did that to me on my first game.The person knew it was my first time playing and didn't care anyways.Then he laughed in my face afterwards.
I don't mind the power cards so much if you're playing a game,and it's been a few minutes,you've had a few turns and then it happens.It's when the whole deck is designed to wipe you out in the opening turn that makes it really unfair.
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The objection i have to that is when someone purposely makes an entire deck around defeating an opponent in one turn.When i first played Yugioh,someone did that to me on my first game.The person knew it was my first time playing and didn't care anyways.Then he laughed in my face afterwards.
I don't mind the power cards so much if you're playing a game,and it's been a few minutes,you've had a few turns and then it happens.It's when the whole deck is designed to wipe you out in the opening turn that makes it really unfair.
true. we alll went thru that. Including me but that's wat makes you want to get better cards and kick everyones ass and learn harcdore strategies...
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true. we alll went thru that. Including me but that's wat makes you want to get better cards and kick everyones ass and learn harcdore strategies...
therein was the other problem,the rules for the game and on the cards were way too confusing for me.Even friends of mine who played in tournamnets alot and got in the top 20 said the rules became so confusing most of them quit and went to other card games.
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i used to play YUGIOH.... I followd it until most of kickass cards got banned like the all mighty Jinzo, Fairy Injection Lily, and Rageki...Whats the point of playing it when you cant win the other guy's valuable cards in one turn?
i don't play to win my opponent's cards, if that's what you're saying - i leave that strictly to trading. i can understand some cards being banned because they caused unfair advantages, but some of those involved in the dreaded 1-turn-KO decks have been banned now as well. probably the newest legal 1-turn-KO setup that i know of involves 3 proto-cyber dragons, shining angel, inferno reckless summon, power bond, cyber end dragon, limiter removal, and some form of trample, like big-bang shot, but even so, it's relatively difficult to pull. i guess if konami had some better card designers like the ones from Magic, this sort of thing could be avoided. =/
btw, here's the current banned/restricted/semi-restricted for advanced format, if anyones's interested. they'll probably update it again in october...
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/forb_advanced.aspx (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/forb_advanced.aspx)
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yea everything is true...i noe one thing tho...YUGIOH used to be fun.. we all stoped playing for different reasons.. i have a question tho:
what have yall done with yalls cards?
i still have all mine collecting dust..ive tried to sell them but the shop buys em for like 1/4 original price. =(
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yea everything is true...i noe one thing tho...YUGIOH used to be fun.. we all stoped playing for different reasons.. i have a question tho:
what have yall done with yalls cards?
i still have all mine collecting dust..ive tried to sell them but the shop buys em for like 1/4 original price. =(
1. I never played to win anyone's cards.I left that for trading,also.
2. I gave all my cards to some friends who were still playing.I'm not sure if one of them still plays yet or not.Most of my friends started focusing on Magic and Inuyasha.Inuyasha was fairly easy for me to learn,i may be picking up some cards of my own for it soon.
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yea everything is true...i noe one thing tho...YUGIOH used to be fun.. we all stoped playing for different reasons.. i have a question tho:
what have yall done with yalls cards?
i still have all mine collecting dust..ive tried to sell them but the shop buys em for like 1/4 original price. =(
too bad you can't email cards over the internet, lol... i'd take em! =3
yeah, most of my friends who played Yugioh have also quit, although not entirely for the same reasons. sure, the introduction of the banned list kinda pissed us off originally, but most of us learned to accept it. i think one thing that caused some of us to quit was the large amount of seemingly good monsters that were so unplayabe because they HAD to be summoned by tributing several specific cards. my best friend, though... he was an awesome card player, but at one point he just started having the longest bad luck streak, and he got so frustrated that he eventually quit both Yugioh AND Magic. oh well... he was nice enough to sell me all his good rares for $20. =3 nowadays, he kinda helps "coach" one of my college buddies to build good decks and strategies because he gets a kick out of watching me lose to him, lol...
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so... now that we know some of our resons for quiting... i have another question:
What was/is your favorite yugioh card(s)?
Mine are the almighty Jinzo and Yata Garatsu. Jinzo is the very first ultra rare that i pulled back in the day. Its also that card that got me into yugioh. My friend came over one day with a full box of the brand new Pharoe Servent Booster packs (1st edition). At first i thought that YuGIOH was a waste of time but then he convinced me to buy a pack of his for $3.50. I picked one at random and as i opened it i saw the 1st Edition Jinzo staring at me. i was like HELL YEA!!! I still have it up to this day. Not bad for paying $3.50 for a $30 card, eh? lol (sucks that Jinzo is banned now that the long awaited Amplifier is out -.-)
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(sucks that Jinzo is banned now that the long awaited Amplifier is out -.-)
uh, dude, check that banned list i posted. Jinzo's only limited now. major props for pulling him from a 1st edition pack, i still only have the tin version of him... that'd probably sell for around $50 from an online store, maybe more. i remember pulling Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8, Cyber Dragon, Armed Dragon LV10, and TWO Mazera DeVilles (from 2 packs i grabbed at once) - it's always an awesome feeling when you find something like that.
but, Amplifier? personally, i don't think it's all that great - besides, it came out WAY back in Ancient Sanctuary, the expansion where secret rares ended and ultimate rares hit the states, so it's not very "long-awaited" anymore. anyway, sure, you can use your own traps now, but now your Jinzo can die to a Mystical Space Typhoon, especially if that M.S.T. is set first (it IS a Quickplay Spell). if i recall correctly, if Amplifier is destroyed while it is equipped to Jinzo, then Jinzo goes down with it - just chain M.S.T. while he attacks or something, but not right after Amplifier is played, because the destruction effect will resolve before Amplifier's does (the last card in a chain always resolves first, remember), and Jinzo won't be destroyed by it. besides, with only 1 Jinzo in your deck, and, let's say 3 Amplifiers just for the hell of it, there's a good chance that you won't pull Jinzo easily (unless you search/Special Summon it somehow other than through Witch of the Black Forest, cuz she's still banned), and if you pull your Amplifiers with no Jinzo out, they're just dead draws - you could set them face-down as bluffs at best. i guess you could use Iron Blacksmith Kotetsu's flip effect to search for Amplifier if you got Jinzo on the field, but he's more for Warrior-Toolbox decks. sorry, but that just seems very ineffective to me. =/
btw, you may or may not know, but Counter Trap cards (the ones with the curved arrow on them) can still negate Jinzo's summoning if they are chained to it because they are of a higher spell speed (level 3) than Jinzo's continuous effect (level 2, i believe), and if you know your chaining rules, which is where most people get confused, if someone chains a certain level spell speed card, you can only respond with one of equal or higher spell speed. as far as the rules go now, counter trap cards are the only cards that have a spell speed of level 3, which is the highest. so if you summon Jinzo, watch out for Solemn Judgment, Horn of Heaven, and the recent Forced Back - Seven Tools of the Bandit or another Solemn Judgment would probably be the only things that could save you at that time, and both of those cards require life point payments to activate, regardless of whether or not they resolve properly - you can't get "refunds" for activation costs.
traps can also be chained to Royal Decree, which basically does the same thing as Jinzo. although it's only a Continuous Trap (level 2), another card, such as Dust Tornado (i THINK Normal Traps are also level 2, i could be wrong), could be chained immediately to its activation. since the last card in the chain resolves first, Dust Tornado would destroy Royal Decree, and then Royal Decree's effect would resolve... if it wasn't in the graveyard first. =/
ok, enough of my raving... my favorite card, hmm... probably either D.D. Warrior Lady or Chaos Emperor Dragon: Envoy of the End (yeah, he's still banned... D.D.'s restricted). D.D. Assailant (also restricted) is cool too - i love the artwork on it. =D
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my faves were Inferno Tempest and Destiny Board.
A guy was talking smack to me,but not for long...my Inferno Tempest wiped out his powered up Buster Blader,and i finished him with the Destiny Board.All night long he complained that he 'walked right into the movie combo',and i never even saw the movie! (or much of the tv show for that matter)...my pals had a good laugh about that fight all night long.
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my faves were Inferno Tempest and Destiny Board.
A guy was talking smack to me,but not for long...my Inferno Tempest wiped out his powered up Buster Blader,and i finished him with the Destiny Board.All night long he complained that he 'walked right into the movie combo',and i never even saw the movie! (or much of the tv show for that matter)...my pals had a good laugh about that fight all night long.
lol good one import gamer. yea F.I.N.A.L was awsome to pull off. I played with it for a couple of months untill i saw that duelers were now building decks to counter it ( they startd to add more cards like Mystical space typhon or Dust Tornado ). The only drawback that i saw was that you had to be carefull on when u played Destiny Board. Sometimes you ended misspelling F.I.N.A.L due to continous magics/traps and that ruined your whole game. After i traded my Destiny Board i remember that i moved on to makeing a Dark Necrofear deck. That card just looked so awsome that i had to play it! lol
now....about the god cards... any1 ever had any of them?
I could say that i've had all of them but not all at the same time. At one point i had RA (from the PS2 game). Then when i sold Ra for $40. I got my hands on Obelisk and Slifer. My fav. one out of the 3 is Obelisk.
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now....about the god cards... any1 ever had any of them?
right now, i only have the shonen jump promo of obelisk, and my friend who still plays has the yugioh ani-manga promo of slifer. at one point i had the xbox promo of ra during a trading session at the local books-a-million store, but i traded it the same day for something, i forgot what exactly... probably a bad idea, lol.
if i ever come up with some mad money, some of my goals as a collector would be to collect all the U.S. versions of blue-eyes white dragon, red-eyes black dragon, and dark magician, and as many foreign versions as i can. i also want to do the same to get the promo, super-rare, and ultra-rare versions of the god cards. i've already obtained most of the dragons and magicians through trades alone. lol, i remember trading with this one kid at the store... i opened up one of my binders and showed him this:
http://www.geekfag.com/images/509688183blue-eyes%20collection.jpg (http://www.geekfag.com/images/509688183blue-eyes%20collection.jpg)
turned the page, and this:
http://geekfag.com/images/159531793collection2.jpg (http://geekfag.com/images/159531793collection2.jpg)
the guy was so amazed, i think he experienced his first orgasm that day, lol... XD
so, yeah, the first pic is all of my blue-eyes white dragons! from left to right, then top to bottom, there's the first tin set version, the Forbidden Legacy promo, the second tin set version, the original one from the first set, the Kaiba Evolution deck version, the original Kaiba deck version, the Shonen Jump promo (my personal favorite!), and finally the Power of Chaos: Kaiba PC game promo. i'm still missing the one from the dark beginnings re-release set, and the promo from the first Yugioh video game.
the other pic, shows my red-eyes' and dark magicians, along with obelisk and the Forbidden Legacy kuriboh promo. the red-eyes' i have: the first tin set version, the original, Joey deck version, Power of Chaos: Joey promo, Shonen Jump promo, Dark Beginnings Vol. 1 version, and the common Dragon's Roar structure deck version. the magicians i have: the first tin set version, the first game promo, Yugi deck version, second tin set version, the original, Yugi Evolution version, Dark Beginnings Vol. 1 version, Spellcaster's Judgment structure deck common version, and my very cool Japanese "red" dark magician!
my faves were Inferno Tempest and Destiny Board.
A guy was talking smack to me,but not for long...my Inferno Tempest wiped out his powered up Buster Blader,and i finished him with the Destiny Board.All night long he complained that he 'walked right into the movie combo',and i never even saw the movie! (or much of the tv show for that matter)...my pals had a good laugh about that fight all night long.
yeah, Destiny Board wouldn't survive in today's metagame, especially with Mobius the Frost Monarch and Sacred Pheonix of Nephthys around. M.S.T.'s and Dust Tornados are pretty much staples nowadays, too. as for Inferno Tempest, it would be awesome in a good chaos deck... too bad it's EXTREMELY situational, plus it doesn't stop the attack either. fiend decks aren't that bad though - there's Goblin Elite Attack Force, Slate Warrior, Goblin King, Hidden Soldiers, Giant Germ, and Raviel, Lord of Phantasms (one of the new spinoffs of the god cards). Dark Necrofear would fit in great with those cards.
ah yes, good old "Busted Bladder," lol... that guy was pretty awesome in the old school days, all my friends ran him if they had him. he's even got his own tutor card (Emblem of Dragon Destroyer). not a shabby choice for a warrior deck even nowadays, although Gilford the Legend owns him in the effect department... i guess he'd be good for the side deck in a warrior-toolbox deck if you were facing someone with a dragon deck.
btw, for those of you who still play the game and are wanting a good deck for today's standards, get the Warrior's Triumph structure deck. it's got a LOT of good cards, including a lightning vortex (some of em, like dark blade, you might want to take out), and it flows very well. here's a spoiler list of it:
http://www.pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/PriceGuide/SD5-Starter-Spoiler.htm (http://www.pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/PriceGuide/SD5-Starter-Spoiler.htm)
now if only all the other creature types had as much support as warriors...
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Sorry. Didn't read the thread 'cuase I'm really not into this scene, but I like to table-top paper-and-dice role play. the two are usually found in the same places of ill repute.
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impressive, tetsaru arigashi... how many cards do u need to complete your magician/dragon collection?
ok so we all know that there are some pretty badass looking cards out there that are like impossible to summon due to the game speed, what card(s) you would have liked to use in a duel?
I'd say Gate Guardian, although no special effects, its a cool card in my collection that i would liked to use. Another is Blue Eyes Shining DRagon.
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impressive, tetsaru arigashi... how many cards do u need to complete your magician/dragon collection?
ok so we all know that there are some pretty badass looking cards out there that are like impossible to summon due to the game speed, what card(s) you would have liked to use in a duel?
I'd say Gate Guardian, although no special effects, its a cool card in my collection that i would liked to use. Another is Blue Eyes Shining DRagon.
there are only a few of each dragon and magician that i'm missing, mainly some of the hard-to-get promos. and getting all the japanese/foreign versions makes my task all the more difficult. i could probably eBay em eventually if i ever got enough money, but i'm trying to focus on the U.S. ones for now. of course, as long as there are newer versions of them that continue to come out, i'll be kept busy trying to collect all of them... but that's what makes being a collector so interesting - you can't wait to see what new rare stuff is gonna come out, although i admit there are still a lot of shitty cards being made...
Gate Guardian has got to be one of the hardest monsters to summon in the game... tributing 3 2-tribute monsters at once, only for a beatstick monster?!? hmm, better bust out the old Ultimate Offering... also, the new Power of the Duelist set came out with a Field Spell called Mausoleum of the Emperor, which allows both players to pay 1000 life points per tribute instead of tributing monsters for a Tribute Summon. it helped me out a lot during the sealed tournament!
Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon seems a little easier to get out, imo, if you had a deck built around him. try using Dragon's Mirror or Cyber-Stein to bring out Blue-Eyes Ultimate, and then tribute him for Shining when you get the chance. Kaiser Sea Horse and Kaibaman can help out in getting your normal Blue-Eyes' out on the field. and to keep out of trouble, you might want to run the Horus dragons (especially LV8) to guard against spells (you're running dragons anyway), and Jinzo and Royal Decree for traps. just be sure not to put too many traps in your own deck to keep this from working against you. and don't forget all the necessary dragon support cards - Lord of D., The Flute of Summoning Dragon, Stamping Destruction, etc.
something i would've liked to use... that reminds me of this one deck concept i tried to create - bringing out Sorceror of Dark Magic and Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8 on the field together so that i could negate spells and traps AT WILL, then use their high attack power to own the hell out of just about anything. bringing out Horus is no problem (just use Level Up!, Level Modulation, or by his effect), but the Sorceror requires 2 tributes which have to be spellcasters, and they BOTH have to be level 6 or higher. my theory was to use Magical Scientist (of course, he's banned now...) to bring out two Sanwitchs, and tribute them. but, if that didn't work, i was pretty much screwed... so the idea fell through. =/ i'd only consider using the Sorceror in a good Spellcaster deck for now, where Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl are commonplace.
another card i want to use is the new Chimeratech Overdragon. check it out...
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=20888 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=20888)
with a name like that, you know it's gotta be badass, lol. it's all these new Cyber Dragon and fusion support cards that makes me want to build a kick-ass machine deck, along with the Ancient Gear and VWXYZ cards (see the links below to see what i'm talking about). man, i need to get another job so i can buy all this shit, lol...
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=10899 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=10899)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14685 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14685)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14973 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14973)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14975 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14975)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14979 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14979)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14972 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14972)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17060 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17060)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17061 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17061)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17068 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17068)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=16657 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=16657)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=20896 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=20896)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=4882 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=4882)
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17066 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=17066)
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whoa, just found this out - the new banned/restricted list is in now, effective September 1...
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/forb_advanced_new.aspx (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/forb_advanced_new.aspx)
the cons: chaos is dying even more now, with the ban of Chaos Sorceror and Tsukuyomi (well, there goes my new chaos deck, sniffle... ;_; ), Dark Hole has be re-banned along with Thousand-Eyes Restrict, and now Snatch Steal (another of my favorites) will no longer be usable. Gravity Bind is now restricted instead of semi-restricted (meaning my Water deck is hurt too, damn...), along with Magician of Faith and a few others.
the pros: Ring of Destruction is back! and check this out - Lightning Vortex can be run in THREES now. all of the Cyber Dragon-related stuff has not been affected (except for maybe Future Fusion), so expect machines to start popping up in the new metagame. heheh, i KNEW building a machine deck would be a good idea...
overall, i'm disappointed that Konami is trying to kill off the chaos deck-type, as i thought that using Chaos Sorceror instead of the Envoys would be a little more fair, but apparently not... guess i'll have to get some more Golden Homunculi to make up for it. the revival of Ring of Destruction was a surprise to me, as that card seems rather overpowered to me, even if it DOES hurt both players. i guess the reason behind 3 Lightning Vortexes was to implement mass-removal cards that had costs, unlike Dark Hole and Raigeki, to make it a little more fair. i also thought that Snatch Steal was balanced too in the fact that it gave your opponent life points every turn, but i guess they didn't like fact that tributing the stolen monster on the same turn got around that... but isn't that the point of using switch-control cards such as that and Change of Heart?? i guess people will be running Brain Controls in three's now too, as well as the unchanged two Creature Swaps for field control.
any thoughts/comments on this new list??
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I think my friends will be happy they got out of Yugioh...those cards you listed,in your cons section...most of my friends had most or all of those cards in their decks.
They'd freak if they heard those cards got banned.
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as long as Konami makes cards that are well-balanced (for example, Lightning Vortex compared to Raigeki), then i guess it's okay. it's mainly the destruction and control cards that keep getting banned, anyway. luckily, we've still got stuff like Torrential Tribute, Smashing Ground, and Bottomless Trap Hole to get the job done.
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hmm, the link got messed up... now it's showing the old one... >_>
i guess i'll copy/paste the list as i did when i first found it. sorry if this takes up a lot of room...
ADVANCED FORMAT LIST EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1st
I. Forbidden Cards
You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:
BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING
BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA
CHANGE OF HEART
CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END
CHAOS SORCERER
CYBER JAR
DARK HOLE
DELINQUENT DUO
EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT
FIBER JAR
HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER
IMPERIAL ORDER
LAST TURN
MAGICAL SCIENTIST
MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR
MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE
MONSTER REBORN
PAINFUL CHOICE
POT OF GREED
RAIGEKI
SINISTER SERPENT
SNATCH STEAL
THE FORCEFUL SENTRY
THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT
TIME SEAL
TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS
TSUKUYOMI
WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST
YATA-GARASU
NEW! - Chaos Sorcerer, Snatch Steal, Thousand-Eyes Restrict, Tsukuyomi
II. Limited Cards
You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:
BOOK OF MOON
BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR
CALL OF THE HAUNTED
CARD DESTRUCTION
CEASEFIRE
CONFISCATION
D. D. ASSAILANT
D. D. WARRIOR LADY
DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS
EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE
FUTURE FUSION
GRACEFUL CHARITY
GRAVITY BIND
HEAVY STORM
INJECTION FAIRY LILY
JINZO
LAST WILL
LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B
LIMITER REMOVAL
MAGE POWER
MAGIC CYLINDER
MAGICIAN OF FAITH
MASK OF DARKNESS
METAMORPHOSIS
MIRROR FORCE
MORPHING JAR
MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON
NIGHT ASSAILANT
NOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUT
POT OF AVARICE
PREMATURE BURIAL
PROTECTOR OF THE SANCTUARY
RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
RING OF DESTRUCTION
SACRED PHOENIX OF NEPHTHYS
SANGAN
SCAPEGOAT
SPIRIT REAPER
SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT
TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE
TREEBORN FROG
TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH
ULTIMATE OFFERING
UNITED WE STAND
NEW! - Future Fusion, Gravity Bind, Magician of Faith, Nobleman of Crossout, Ring of Destruction, Spirit Reaper, Ultimate Offering
III. Semi-Limited Cards
You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:
APPRENTICE MAGICIAN
CREATURE SWAP
DECK DEVASTATION VIRUS
EXILED FORCE
GIANT TRUNADE
GOOD GOBLIN HOUSEKEEPING
MANTICORE OF DARKNESS
RECKLESS GREED
REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY
UPSTART GOBLIN
WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT
NEW! - Exiled Force, Giant Trunade, Reckless Greed, Wall of Revealing Light
NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Drop Off, Emergency Provisions, Lightning Vortex, Reflect Bounder
well, there it is, guys. cuss and discuss.
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hmm...i noticed the arms/legs of Exodia are in the limited list.... deos this mean that ppl. are back to using exodia? I mean nowadays it would be pointless to try and pull exodia with all the new powerfull cards you can use to stop it. Why bother?
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hmm...i noticed the arms/legs of Exodia are in the limited list.... deos this mean that ppl. are back to using exodia? I mean nowadays it would be pointless to try and pull exodia with all the new powerfull cards you can use to stop it. Why bother?
as far as i know, people still use Exodia decks, although probably not competitively. if you are running one, then i suggest using Backup Soldier and Dark Factory of Mass Production in case your Exodia pieces (except for the head) end up in your graveyard. Apprentice Magician, Mystic Tomato, and Hidden Soldiers can be used to summon the pieces from your deck, and then you could use Compulsory Evacuation Device (one of my favorite traps =3) to bounce them into your hand. i'd also suggest lots of card-drawing cards, such as Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive, Dark Mimic, Skelengel, Airknight Parshath, Graceful Charity, and Good Goblin Housekeeping to find your Exodia pieces quickly (having a 40-card deck is also ideal). it'd also be wise to add in some stall cards, like Messenger of Peace, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Waboku, etc. and if your Exodia pieces STILL wind up in your graveyard, you can use Contract with Exodia to bring out Exodia Necross and unleash hell. just watch out for remove-from-play stuff... probably another reason why chaos is dying. in fact, throw in some good negate cards, like Magic Drain, Seven Tools of the Bandit, Solemn Judgment, etc. to keep your opponent from throwing off your game plan, since you're not exactly relying on your monsters to protect you in this kind of deck.
btw, if anyone's not familiar with any of these newer cards i keep mentioning, try going to pojo.com and check out their "Card of the Day" section for Yugioh. just use Ctrl+F to search for something, and click the links to see some reviews of that card. you can also check out the spoiler lists in the left margin of the page.
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whats the most annoying card(s) that u ever had to face?
I'd say good ol Yata Garasu and its famous Yata-lock. Man i hated loosing to a 200 attack monster!
:p :x2 :k :hs :hcf :+ :hs's Yata!
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whats the most annoying card(s) that u ever had to face?
I'd say good ol Yata Garasu and its famous Yata-lock. Man i hated loosing to a 200 attack monster!
:p :x2 :k :hs :hcf :+ :hs's Yata!
for me, probably Stealth Bird...
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14877 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=14877)
this guy is cheap as hell in a good burn/restrictive deck. simply put a few good stall cards out - Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Messenger of Peace, etc. - then just keep flipping him up and down - 1000 damage every time. and with 1700 DEF, he's good at blocking, especially when all your strong monsters can't attack. >=(
yeah, the Yata-lock sucks... i managed to actually pull it off very early in a game against my friend. it pissed him off so bad, lol... luckily, the banned/restricted list has fixed this cheap strategy, although i fear everyone will be making Cyber End Dragon and/or Chimeratech Overdragon one-turn-kill decks now... i think Konami should've waited until October so that they could see how people would use these cards, and then ban/restrict them as necessary to keep people from running such cheap decks.
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'sup guys. i've been trying to come up with a new Magic deck to bring to my anime club's meetings (apparently there are some new members who play Magic), but i'm kinda stumped on what type to make. i'm definitely running blue, and i'll most likely end up running either a blue/green simic deck that utilizes +1/+1 counters and 1/1 creature tokens, or a blue/white azorius deck that uses a lot of control spells. thing is, i'm missing a lot of critical/rare cards to really make these decks flow well (most notably doubling season for the simic deck). any of you guys have any suggestions on some good part-blue decks that work well?? i'd prefer they be in standard format, which is currently 9th edition, kamigawa block, ravnica block, and i THINK ice age block, due to the coldsnap release. note that the kamigawa block will be rotating out of standard format in several weeks when time spiral comes out. i think 10th edition will be coming out before too long as well - there's been a lot of discussion about it on the Magic website.
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well if you really want to make a good token deck its best you go black/green. however if you want to take your opponent by the balls from the get go i'd stick with blue/white. it also depends if you want to keep your deck type 2. if you arent interested in keeping it type 2 i could post some of my sample decks that you could copy.
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I play both Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic.
I usually run Black-something decks, while in Yu-Gi-Oh, I run various decks. My best decks are Cyber Blader, Machine, and Dark World monsters. That's my two cents.
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well if you really want to make a good token deck its best you go black/green. however if you want to take your opponent by the balls from the get go i'd stick with blue/white. it also depends if you want to keep your deck type 2. if you arent interested in keeping it type 2 i could post some of my sample decks that you could copy.
well, i was hoping to use Doubling Season to work towards both of its effects - counters AND creature tokens. however, the Simic guild theme focuses mainly on +1/+1 counters through its Graft mechanic - creature tokens like the 1/1 saprolings are more of the Selesnya guild's thing, although both of these guilds are half-green, and the other colors (blue and white), which is the Azorius guild, also utilizes some bird tokens through cards such as Dovescape (which i do not currently have, btw). i guess basically i'm wanting a deck that works well around Doubling Season (if i ever get 4 copies of it), even if it meaning splashing a few colors here and there (that Vampiric Skeleton card from Guildpact comes to mind). some of the old Mirrodin block cards would've worked well, but they're no longer part of standard format anymore (i forgot what format Type 2 was exactly)... eh, i guess for now, a good old blue/white control deck would be my best bet, seeing how i have significantly more blue cards than any other color, and i have some good white cards as well. heirophant, go ahead and post some decklists if you wish - that's one thing i wanted to utilize in this thread.
I play both Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic.
I usually run Black-something decks, while in Yu-Gi-Oh, I run various decks. My best decks are Cyber Blader, Machine, and Dark World monsters. That's my two cents.
one of my good friends ran a black deck before he quit card games. i ran a Dimir deck when Ravnica first came out... it was that huge clunker of a deck that i posted near the beginning of this thread, lol - it had very little synergy going for it, despite some good cards in it. i'd keep that machine deck going for Yugioh, LordRyunson - it seems like they're going to be the strong ones for the upcoming metagame. i'll probably end up "decommissioning" my old chaos deck unless i can come up with something to fill the shoes of old Chaos Sorceror and the other big guys that got banned recently. feel free to post any decklists too - and that goes for everyone else as well. i'm curious to see the types of decks people run.
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ok, here's a list of cards that threw together that i might use for the counters/tokens deck i'm trying to make. you guys can go to Magic's Gatherer database site - http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/index.aspx? (http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/index.aspx?) - to search for and see the details of each card in case you're not familiar with them. i'll also try to post some of my blue/white cards later when i get them organized.
- llanowar elves
- plaxmanta
- coiling oracle
- silkwing scout
- puppeteer
- silhana starfletcher
- trygon predator
- aquastrand spider
- cytoplast root-kin
- sporeback troll
- archivist
- giant solifuge
- assault zeppelid
- simic ragworm
- plaxcaster frogling
- vigean hydropod
- skarrgan skybreaker
- borborygmos
- protean hulk
- simic sky swallower
- experiment kraj
- aetherplasm
- helium squirter
- cytospawn shambler
- ulasht, the hate seed
- shielding plax
- simic guildmage
- followed footsteps
- copy enchantment
- priviledged position
- commune with nature
- farseek
- thrive
- savage twister
- congregation at dawn
- chord of calling
- gruul signet
- selesnya signet
- simic growth chamber
- novijen, heart of progress
- selesnya sanctuary
- gruul turf
- skarrg, the rage pits
there are probably some better choices that i have, and i know that there are some cards that i need for this deck that i don't have (keep in mind i collect Yugioh a lot more than i do Magic), but maybe that'll give you guys an idea of what i had in mind. keep in mind that this a standard format (type 2) deck that i'm trying to make, and lemme hear your suggestions.
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Fear the Kamigawa Dragons. I used The Night Star to completely drain a friend's life totals down to zero, and forced him to surrender. That's another victory for me!
Oh, and the 2006 Collector Tins for Yu-Gi-Oh, are not going to be as glamourous as I hoped. How dare they have the gall to put a COMMON card as a collector tin (Elemental Hero NEOS). The others I can understand, but if this is true, then Konami must be losing it. How about we post the tins we SHOULD'VE gotten here!
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Fear the Kamigawa Dragons. I used The Night Star to completely drain a friend's life totals down to zero, and forced him to surrender. That's another victory for me!
Oh, and the 2006 Collector Tins for Yu-Gi-Oh, are not going to be as glamourous as I hoped. How dare they have the gall to put a COMMON card as a collector tin (Elemental Hero NEOS). The others I can understand, but if this is true, then Konami must be losing it. How about we post the tins we SHOULD'VE gotten here!
holy crap, that IS ludicrous... it better have a cool alternate art, then. first they make rares into commons, and now commons into rares. i heard Cyber Dragon was going to be a tin card, but i didn't know what the others were going to be. do you have any images/links you can show me? personally, i liked the 2004 tins, with Command Knight and the other cool cards that were practically brand-new... most of 'em had pretty cool effects, and i thought it was kinda cool that they misprinted some of the holofoils - that's collector's value right there. anyway, i think Konami should keep up that trend of using completely new monsters for the tins, or even some of the cards that are currently only in Japan, as long as they're not crap like Panther Warrior or something...
yes, the Kamigawa dragons ARE pimp, at least from what i've seen. i wanted a Keiga the Tide Star so bad back when i first started a with mono-blue deck. unfortunately, since Time Spiral's coming out soon, the Kamigawa block will rotate out of Type 2, and i'll then have to make changes accordingly for my decks that i'm trying to make. maybe i should just wait for a while until i have some spare cash to spend on deck-building...
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Here's a picture of Tin Number 2!
http://www.shonenjump.com/news/newsblast/images/20060719/ygo_tin.jpg
I could be wrong, but Cyber Dragon and Raviel are TWO of the six tins. Unless Konami suprises us with a really cool card, my value on these real cards is going down.
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Here's a picture of Tin Number 2!
http://www.shonenjump.com/news/newsblast/images/20060719/ygo_tin.jpg
I could be wrong, but Cyber Dragon and Raviel are TWO of the six tins. Unless Konami suprises us with a really cool card, my value on these real cards is going down.
i actually have the original Raviel from Shadow of Infinity - pulled him from my first pack of the set, luckily. he's one of those cards that i often alter the name or give a nickname to just for shits and giggles - "Ravioli, Lord of Orgasms." =3 here's a few others me and my friends came up with:
Buster Blader - "Busted Bladder"
Pot of Greed - "Pot of Weed"
Bottomless Trap Hole - "Bottomless Crap Hole"
Blue-Eyes/Red-Eyes - "Pink-Eyes Infected Dragon"
Ultimate Obedient Fiend - "Ultimate Obese Fiend"
White Magician Pikeru - "White Magiciain Pikachu," or "The Kindergartener"
Harpie Lady - "Herpes Lady"
Hydroggedon - "Hydrogen Bomb"
the Elemental/Destiny Heroes - "Elemental/Destiny Hero Dudeface"
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer - "Koo-Koo-Katchoo"
D. D. Warrior Lady - "DD-cup Warrior Lady"
Solemn Judgment - "Moses"
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Here's something I came up with myself.
Dark Magician: Dork Magician
Ebon Magician Currian: Udon Magician Curry, or The Kindergartener's Rival
Trap Hole: Crap Hole
Harpie's Brother: Herpies Brother
Penguin Soldier: DAMN YOU PENGUIN SOLDIER! YOU AND YOUR FLIP EFFECT!!
Princess Pikeru: Princess Pikachu
Princess Currian: Princess Curry
I think that's about it.
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Penguin Soldier: DAMN YOU PENGUIN SOLDIER! YOU AND YOUR FLIP EFFECT!!
*lol at the Penguin Soldier reference*
yeah, i run a water deck, so i know how that goes. i run 2 "Prinny Soldiers" (lol, just came up with that one), along with 3 Nightmare Penguins, an Abyss Soldier, 2 Giant Trunades, 1 Forced Back, and 3 Compulsory Evacuation Devices. bouncing is fun, isn't it!? well, of course it is... *stares at his Nanako avatar and her alternating bounciness* O_O
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Penguin Soldier: Pvt. Prinny
Kuriboh: Furball
Wall Shadow: Brian Peppers
D.D. Warrior Lady: I ain't gonna say it, it's BEEN said.
Dark Magician: Dork Magician (I started calling it that after I saw that one episode of Trading Spouses with that Margaret person. "That family is DORK-SIDED" xD)
Time Wizard: Pluto
Neo The Magic Swordsman: THE ONE
Lord Of D.: Lord Of Dragon Breath
Big Eye: Hiei
That's all I could think of.
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hey, it looks like they've redone the Yugioh website now... it looks a lot better imo. let's just hope they do a better job of updating the place than they have been (btw, that Power of the Duelist pre-release thing needs to go now...).
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/ (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/)
i'd still like to see some decklists and/or strategies from you guys, if you've got any. =3
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Trying to Discard an opponent's hand that's filled with Dark World Monsters...
BAD IDEA.
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Trying to Discard an opponent's hand that's filled with Dark World Monsters...
BAD IDEA.
very true. the Dark World monsters actually make The Cheerful Coffin playable, lol. however, be aware that if they are discarded as costs (like for Lightning Vortex, Raigeki Break, etc.), then their effects don't go through. so sad... =/
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That is indeed so sad. I would swarm the field easily with my Dark World monsters! That reminds me, I gotta work on Duel Princess, the series! Now all I gotta do is wait for R-9 to post his work of fiction. Hopefully, it will be awesome!
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That is indeed so sad. I would swarm the field easily with my Dark World monsters! That reminds me, I gotta work on Duel Princess, the series! Now all I gotta do is wait for R-9 to post his work of fiction. Hopefully, it will be awesome!
You may have to wait a litle on that. I'm a currently a full-time college student who doesn't have any on- or near-campus housing yet, so I don't have nearly as much time to write as I used to right now.
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Same here, R-9. Same here. Thing is, I did get housing out of the way. Now I got classes and all that stuff, I pretty much doubt I would get writing anytime soon.
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here are some of the cards i've been needing for the Magic decks i want to make. i do realize that i tend to throw in a lot of cards, but doing so allows me for more options to tweak my decks as i need to. also, be aware that i am shooting for two different decks - a Doubling Season deck (mostly green/blue, although it may have all five colors), and a restrictive blue/white deck.
aetherplasm
concerted effort
cytoplast manipulator
celestial ancient
leyline of the meek
loxodon gatekeeper
spelltithe enforcer
suppression field
twilight drover
jotun owl keeper
birds of paradise
golgari grave-troll
sprouting phytohydra
petrified wood-kin
vinelasher kudzu
protean hulk
stone-seeder hierophant
perilous forays
elvish piper
seed the land
skeletal vampire
doubling season
dovescape
boseiju, who shelters all
pride of the clouds
meloku the clouded mirror
keiga, the tide star
vulturous zombie
grand arbiter augustin IV
master warcraft
phytohydra
giant solifuge
priviledged position
dune-brood nephilim
szadek, lord of secrets
witch-maw nephilim
voidslime
overgrown tomb
breeding pool
temple garden
hallowed fountain
watery grave
Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Perilous Forays, Seed the Land, and Vinelasher Kudzu combo very well together if you can get them all out onto the field. the first three cards can allow you to bring out practically ALL of your basic lands (including the Ravnica block dual-lands, since they have basic land types), while Vinelasher Kudzu gains counters each time you do so! Boseiju, Who Shelters All and Dovescape also work well, as they allow you to play your own instants and sorceries without being countered and STILL get the bird tokens out. meanwhile, Doubling Season makes it all the more hellatious. i'll also be trying to incorporate Experiment Kraj with the Graft creatures, and maybe some of the Gruul Bloodthirst cards, such as Borborygmos and Skarrgan Skybreaker. i doubt i'll be able to squeeze all that into one deck, but i'll see what i can do once i get the cards.
i was also planning on putting Loxodon Gatekeeper, Spelltithe Enforcer, Suppression Field, Master Warcraft, and Grand Arbiter Augustin IV together into a blue/white control deck, most likely with a lot of counter, bounce, and tapping spells - something that'll drive my opponents crazy, lol.
problem is, most of these cards are rare and will possibly cost me a lot (especially the dual-lands) when i do get the money for them. also, with Kamigawa leaving Type 2 soon, the combos i mentioned above will fall apart, so i may just have to set it up for Extended format instead of Standard, i dunno...
hopefully this list will give you guys a good idea of what i'm after. lemme know what you think, or if you've got any good suggestions/comments/ideas.
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What I wish is that there were some manner of card-game maker software around, like there is for hexmaps with wargaming.
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What I wish is that there were some manner of card-game maker software around, like there is for hexmaps with wargaming.
i believe one of my friends found some type of program or website that gave you a template card background and allowed you to insert your own images and text on it, if that's what you're looking for. i have no idea what the name of it is, though, sorry. =/
Magic's website is starting to preview some of the new Time Spiral cards. i saw one that i think would be good for the blue/white control deck i'm trying to make:
http://www.geekfag.com/images/103527719teferi%20mage%20of%20zhalfir.jpg (http://www.geekfag.com/images/103527719teferi%20mage%20of%20zhalfir.jpg)
lemme know what you guys think about my deck ideas - do they own, suck ass, need improvement?? what would you guys run?? i'm always open to suggestions.
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that mage is a double edged sword. if manipulated it could really bite you in the ass in a match.
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Hey, the flash mechanic is new. What else uses that mechanism?
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Hey, the flash mechanic is new. What else uses that mechanism?
there are several cards that have this ability (Plaxmanta and several enchantments do), but i think this is the first time that Magic has actually made it into a specific mechanic (i haven't seen it on any other cards yet anyway), sorta how they did with Vigilance a while back.
that mage is a double edged sword. if manipulated it could really bite you in the ass in a match.
yeah, but i figure a lot of the other cards i'd be running (Spelltithe Enforcer, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Loxodon Gatekeeper) would work the same way. that's why you run counter and bounce spells, and conserve your mana when you can. >=D
btw, that brings up an interesting question to ask you guys: what's your favorite countering spell? heck, what's your favorite spell period?? i've always liked Mana Drain, Boomerang, and Hinder, and my favorite creature spell would probably be Thieving Magpie.
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my favorite counter is erratic portal. its an artifact. y favorite creature spell is elven lyrist. pay one green to bring a creature into play from your hand. pair that with a token generator like deranged hermit and haunted crossroads and you get a badass combo.
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Have you guys seen the funny subtitles on Yu-Gi-Oh GX in Youtube? They were extremely funny if you seen enough anime and watched GX. This is SO going into Duel Princess the series if you catch my drift.
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The Time Spiral spoiler's up! After skimming through it and some of the articles on magicthegathering.com, I feel that this is going to be the craziest set yet, especially with the "timeshifted" cards... anyway, enjoy, and lemme know what you think:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/feature/363 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/feature/363)
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*BUMP*
btw, the Sneak Preview event for the next Yugioh expansion, "Cyberdark Impact," is November 4-5. Just thought I'd let any of the card-playing members who are still around know. =/
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What's the preview card? Hopefully it's something good this time around and worth getting rather than all of these battle city cards we've been getting.
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What's the preview card? Hopefully it's something good this time around and worth getting rather than all of these battle city cards we've been getting.
Here's a scan of the ad from where I got the pre-release info (sorry if it's a bit crooked):
http://www.geekfag.com/images/383683485cyberdark%20impact%20pre-release%20ad.jpg (http://www.geekfag.com/images/383683485cyberdark%20impact%20pre-release%20ad.jpg)
I think the name of it is "Cyberdark Dragon". Here's a Japanese version I found:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=1123&ID=21131 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=1123&ID=21131)
Judging from the given translation, it's in some ways similar to Relinquished, although I figure it will need some good fusion support to be summoned easily (in which case, there seems to be more and more of it coming out in recent expansions). At least it LOOKS bad-ass, anyway... As far as the promo card they'll be giving away this time... no idea. =/
I agree that the Neo-Spacian fusions were shitty, but I think the Cyber Dragon family's got something going for it. I've been wanting to make a good machine deck utilizing them, along with some of the Ancient Gears and maybe even the VWXYZ-fusions. Oh, and speaking of machines, there may be a new machine structure deck coming out soon that looks very promising:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=21215 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=21215)
There's also supposed to be a dinosaur structure deck out (or should be coming out very soon), but I haven't seen it at any of the local stores yet...
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=19337 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=19337)
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I'm not asking for the poster card, I'm asking for the preview card that you get when you walk in.
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I'm not asking for the poster card, I'm asking for the preview card that you get when you walk in.
As far as the promo card they'll be giving away this time... no idea. =/
...that answer your question? >_>
When I went to the Power of the Duelist pre-release event, I didn't know what the promo was until they gave it to me. I assume they might do the same this time too, but if I find out beforehand, I'll be sure to post it.
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Amen to that.
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ithought it was mentioned farther back in the thread, but here
http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/
this will allow you to create your own cards, and it supports duel monsters as well as magic, and i think a few others (i only use the magic cards, so i'm not sure about the rest)
enjoy
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For some strange reason, the server's down.
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Too bad: If you have the stuff, you can put together something pretty quick. This one took half a minute, if that.
(http://xad.xanga.com/7b4a963b2143381997402/w56022271.jpg)
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Neat!
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The Server is STILL DOWN. I would like to make cards myself, though, if there was a working server that allows us to make our own cards.
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Hmm, very interesting indeed! I may have to look into this program later on...
...that, and find a way to obtain the cards I need. New sets are coming out all the time, and my new deck ideas are quickly becoming obsolete... >_<;
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Hey! Maybe we can make some new deck ideas ourselves! I'm not sure if Duel Princess counts as such, however....
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Well, I'm just tinkering to see if I could make a whole new game out of this.
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Finally managed to get the program, and now making new cards based on the jpegs I found. I might not show any examples but hey... Worth a shot eh?
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Great. Now I am trying to figure out how to resize the text and fix that little glitch that doesn't allow certain words, (As in Tribute, in which a little & symbol comes up) and trying to get all the aspects of a Yu-Gi-Oh card.
Any tips on how to do that?
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And now, fun from Romanland.
(http://xdc.xanga.com/d41a9b1319d3382057366/w56068016.jpg)
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That's really something R-9! I am working on a couple of cards, but the images I can get are from YTF's site. I don't know if I have proper permission to turn them into cards or not, I am getting better in the Magic department.
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Well, I tend to use the Print screen key quite a bit when a particularly good shot comes up in a game, so I have tons of screens sitting on my hard drive.
(http://x07.xanga.com/64ea921b2063382065930/w56074807.jpg)
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Yeah, about that, I was wondering how to get DVD snapshots from a computer DVD player. I currently use InterVideo, but for some strange reason, it won't let me do that. Do you know any good DVD shots of certain animes that are licenced? Is it alright to give examples?
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Try VLC Media Player. You can easily get screenshots off of that with ctrl-Alt-S. The caps will go into your My Pictures folder.
(http://x8d.xanga.com/618d1a163703582078396/w56084169.jpg)
Incomplete, but I just wanted to show you my not-lying-ness.
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Yeah, cause I was currently working on some anime themed Magic cards. Some for Grenadier, others for Voltage Fighter Gowkaiser. One was going to be a gift for Hyperguy for all of his hard work.
Plus, loads of anime I liked over the years!
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Well, I got said Media player, and it works with all my other media that somehow failed to play.
Actually, I was looking for a player that allowed you to take snapshots of frames that move fluently, like a skip frame button, and a snapshot. That would make all my card making skills more wonderful.
Or you want me to show you some cards I made now?
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Well, I can't think of any computer media player that could let you do that.
Feel free to put up your cards, though.
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What the deuce? How do I post these images? I worked so hard on them!
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I picked up a tournament pack of the new Time Spiral series a while ago. I must say, this set is gonna make the game VERY interesting. I really like some of the new blue spells - Cancel, Trickbind, and Wipe Away will definitely be in the next control/permission deck I make. I'll also have to keep my eyes peeled for an Akroma, Angel of Wrath, since she's playable again now (it's one of the new "timeshifted" cards). >=D
Still, I'll have to keep my funds open if I want to get a new computer for Christmas/birthday... I REALLY need a new computer (sorry, I know I've been whining about this for a while now), so my card games may have to wait for a while. =/
I DID, however, slap together a new Yugioh dragon deck to keep me busy. It's a little shaky, but it plays decently well. I may post it later...
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What the deuce? How do I post these images? I worked so hard on them!
You'll need to use an image hosting site, like the rest of us.
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Until I can figure out how to post these card images, I might as well make some more.
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Well, if you just need the card images, you could just Print Screen, paste them into Microsoft Photo Editor, and crop out everything else. Then you put them into an image hosting site, copy the URL, and then paste it in between the image tags.
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I'll see what I can do. What should I publish first?
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Whatever you like, and I wouldn't exactly use the word publish, either. Putting up stuff on a forum isn't exactly going commercial.
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Until I can get this Editor, I'm pretty much reduced down to just making the cards.
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I think you can do it in any image editing program, should you happen to have one. I'll see if it's possible to do it in Word, but if you have Win2000 or XP, Microsoft Photo editor should be there by default.
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I have Microsoft Office Picture Manager... Will that work?
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It's a little clumsy, but it'll work just fine. Anyway, once I get back to my own computer, I'm going to put up some character cards I made for Starmada X.
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Can't wait.
I'm currently working on a Grenadier Deck, focusing on mainly Rushuna and Setsuna. Well for some strange reason, I came up with more Setsuna cards than Rushuna cards.
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Any ideas for other characters for the Grenadier Deck?
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Keep in mind, Starmada X is a tabletop wargame, so you may not get the rules.
(http://xe7.xanga.com/ff9a6777c403082284105/w56250608.jpg)
(http://xc7.xanga.com/678a927441c3082284281/w56250742.jpg)
(http://xf7.xanga.com/fdca7b42d7d3182284113/w56250615.jpg)
(http://xf5.xanga.com/077a7374d7d3182284111/w56250613.jpg)
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Wow. I play with a few tabletop games myself, but not Starmada X. And I see you're building a Nadescio deck, complete with Yurika! Awesome. I'm building some other decks though.
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Well, this isn't a card-game deck per se, but rather officer cards for Starmada X. It's something I want to playtest one of these days, of course. I'm also toying with the idea of "negative" officers that actually reduce the costs of ships, and I'm going to see how those turn out.
EDIT: I also forgot to change Scotty's rarity. Oops.
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Okay, that works too. I'm also creating cards for Voltage Fighter Gowkaiser and Labrynth of Flames.
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If you're going to create negative officers, I recommend that you start with one of the most famously incompetant admirals in sci-fi history: Admiral Ozzel. He is the lousy commander that all other lousy commanders are measured against.
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Like so?
(http://x44.xanga.com/4c3804ea42c6882350103/w56304611.bmp)
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That will do quite nicely, thank you.
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Wow. You certainly went the extra mile creating character cards for obscure characters from popular Sci-Fi themes, like Ozzel. Poor guy.
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Wow. You certainly went the extra mile creating character cards for obscure characters from popular Sci-Fi themes, like Ozzel. Poor guy.
Well, the actor had to find something to keep him busy in between his stints on Dr. Who, so why not Star Wars?
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Yeah, I'm basically still trying to make character cards, but STILL couldn't find an image hosting website. I'm scared that I might get flamed for my efforts, or my works stolen.
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I use xanga, myself. I don't really blog on it, I just use it for the gig of hosting space they give you.
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I'll see what I can do. So many card ideas, so little time to post them all! Even trying to make Duel Princess cards under the new rules seem impossibe without samples.
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My new Dragon Deck:
MONSTERS (23):
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4 x2
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6
Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8
Armed Dragon LV3 x2
Armed Dragon LV5
Armed Dragon LV7
Armed Dragon LV10
Lord of D. x3
Masked Dragon x3
Mirage Dragon x3
Twin-Headed Behemoth
Sangan
Magician of Faith
King of the Swamp x2
FUSIONS (1):
King Dragun
SPELLS (21):
The Flute of Summoning Dragon x3
Stamping Destruction x2
Level Up! x2
Level Modulation
The Graveyard in the Fourth Dimension
Polymerization
Fusion Recovery
Dragon's Mirror
Magical Mallet x2
Scapegoat
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Premature Burial
Rush Recklessly x2
Swords of Revealing Light
TRAPS (5):
Royal Decree
Magic Cylinder
Sakuretsu Armor
Call of the Haunted
The Dragon's Bead
TOTAL: 50 in deck, 1 fusion
The deck's a bit shaky right now, but the theme I had in mind was to try to use Horus LV8 and cards like Royal Decree, Mirage Dragon, and The Dragon's Bead to keep the opponent from using any Spells or Traps to help them. The dragons' relatively high attack power (along with Rush Recklessly) can then usually plow through just about any monsters the opponent tries to use to defend themself with. I'll probably end up tweaking this deck later on... what do you guys think about it? Any suggestions on cards I should take out/put in?? I probably need to find some more copies of the LV dragons, King Dragun, Royal Decree (and then take out the other traps), and maybe a Tyrant Dragon... maybe also some Troop Dragons, or even a Jinzo. =/
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Yeah, but Jinzo's a machine. Unless you have Amplifier and DNA Surgery to back him up, he doesn't count as a dragon. Unless Konami can make a dragon to negate traps, that combination will work.....
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Yeah, but Jinzo's a machine. Unless you have Amplifier and DNA Surgery to back him up, he doesn't count as a dragon. Unless Konami can make a dragon to negate traps, that combination will work.....
Amplifier = Crap, imo. I think I made my little rave on that card a few pages back in this thread, sorry. =/
uh, dude, check that banned list i posted. Jinzo's only limited now. major props for pulling him from a 1st edition pack, i still only have the tin version of him... that'd probably sell for around $50 from an online store, maybe more. i remember pulling Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8, Cyber Dragon, Armed Dragon LV10, and TWO Mazera DeVilles (from 2 packs i grabbed at once) - it's always an awesome feeling when you find something like that.
but, Amplifier? personally, i don't think it's all that great - besides, it came out WAY back in Ancient Sanctuary, the expansion where secret rares ended and ultimate rares hit the states, so it's not very "long-awaited" anymore. anyway, sure, you can use your own traps now, but now your Jinzo can die to a Mystical Space Typhoon, especially if that M.S.T. is set first (it IS a Quickplay Spell). if i recall correctly, if Amplifier is destroyed while it is equipped to Jinzo, then Jinzo goes down with it - just chain M.S.T. while he attacks or something, but not right after Amplifier is played, because the destruction effect will resolve before Amplifier's does (the last card in a chain always resolves first, remember), and Jinzo won't be destroyed by it. besides, with only 1 Jinzo in your deck, and, let's say 3 Amplifiers just for the hell of it, there's a good chance that you won't pull Jinzo easily (unless you search/Special Summon it somehow other than through Witch of the Black Forest, cuz she's still banned), and if you pull your Amplifiers with no Jinzo out, they're just dead draws - you could set them face-down as bluffs at best. i guess you could use Iron Blacksmith Kotetsu's flip effect to search for Amplifier if you got Jinzo on the field, but he's more for Warrior-Toolbox decks. sorry, but that just seems very ineffective to me. =/
btw, you may or may not know, but Counter Trap cards (the ones with the curved arrow on them) can still negate Jinzo's summoning if they are chained to it because they are of a higher spell speed (level 3) than Jinzo's continuous effect (level 2, i believe), and if you know your chaining rules, which is where most people get confused, if someone chains a certain level spell speed card, you can only respond with one of equal or higher spell speed. as far as the rules go now, counter trap cards are the only cards that have a spell speed of level 3, which is the highest. so if you summon Jinzo, watch out for Solemn Judgment, Horn of Heaven, and the recent Forced Back - Seven Tools of the Bandit or another Solemn Judgment would probably be the only things that could save you at that time, and both of those cards require life point payments to activate, regardless of whether or not they resolve properly - you can't get "refunds" for activation costs.
traps can also be chained to Royal Decree, which basically does the same thing as Jinzo. although it's only a Continuous Trap (level 2), another card, such as Dust Tornado (i THINK Normal Traps are also level 2, i could be wrong), could be chained immediately to its activation. since the last card in the chain resolves first, Dust Tornado would destroy Royal Decree, and then Royal Decree's effect would resolve... if it wasn't in the graveyard first. =/
ok, enough of my raving... my favorite card, hmm... probably either D.D. Warrior Lady or Chaos Emperor Dragon: Envoy of the End (yeah, he's still banned... D.D.'s restricted). D.D. Assailant (also restricted) is cool too - i love the artwork on it. =D
As far as using DNA Surgery with him - hello?? It's a continuous TRAP??? And Jinzo, like, NEGATES traps, so it wouldn't work anyway...????? Besides, what's the point of making Jinzo a dragon when there's nothing in my deck that would allow him to benefit from him being a dragon while he's on the field in the first place? I'm simply inserting him for his EFFECT - negating traps. He essentially does the same thing as Royal Decree (which, btw, one of my friends traded me a copy =D), so I could use him, if the need arises, alongside Horus LV8 to keep my opponent from playing either spells or traps. And although Jinzo also negates MY traps, I'm only running 5 traps in my deck anyway, so it doesn't hurt me that much - yet ANOTHER reason why I shouldn't run Amplifier (besides the fact that I don't even HAVE that card anyway...). As far as a trap-negating dragon, Tyrant Dragon's probably the closest thing (note that "the first attack of your Battle Phase" on the card text is supposed to refer to Tyrant Dragon's first attack during the Battle Phase. The updated version of Tyrant Dragon on the site I linked to, for some reason, didn't have a card description on it, and also the thumbnail-linked image was a lot smaller and more difficult to read, so just take my word for it. >=P):
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=4845 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=4845)
I also made the following changes to the deck:
- The Graveyard in the Fourth Dimension, Sakuretsu Armor, The Dragon's Bead, Mirage Dragon
+ Level Modulation, Mirror Force, Royal Decree, Jinzo
Any other suggestions for this deck, or any of the other decks I'm trying to build that I mentioned way back when??
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Yeah, Tyrant can only negate traps that target him. He doesn't negate non-target traps like Mirror Force.
Also on the subject, there is a contest that allows you to create your own Yu-Gi-Oh card. Unfortunately the contest is open to kids ranging from 3 to 17. Hello? ADULTS have created the Yu-Gi-Oh anime and card game, why can't they grant the contest for their more senior members as well? Afraid we'll create something too sexy or violent?
Here's the link if you don't believe me.
http://www.pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/News/2006/10-12.shtml
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Maybe they're afraid that some adults would make their cards look bad?
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Still, it's somewhat better than what some kids could create. The card is either going to completely rock, or completely suck.
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Hey, I just read about that contest. Yeah, it's a shame that younger kids/teens are the only ages eligible. I also heard that the Magic website has been having a contest of sorts to find a new designer, I believe... maybe due to this kinda shit happening all the time, lol:
On a different note, I was just wondering - anyone else made any new decks lately?? I'm curious to see what people are running, for those of you who still play any of the games.
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Dude, I remember this commercial.... Why can't Yu-Gi-Oh be more like that?
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Also, I finished a Setsuna card, and uploading it wasn't easy. Here you go!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/862428367Setsuna,%20Ebony%20Gunner.bmp)
I'm sort of nervous when uploading images for sites I don't know very well, please don't kill me for this or steal my images.....
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Cool card creation, LordRyunson! I think it'd be GREATLY overpowered in the real game though... a 5/5 creature with Fear AND two badass effects for only 4 MANA?!? AND she has a nice rack! It's too much man... O_O Still, this makes me want to create some cards of my own sometime! I'll have to check into this...
Oh, I looked up some rulings on the cards I put in my new dragon deck - apparantly, King of the Swamp won't work with Dragon's Mirror since, although it can be used as a substitute Fusion Material Monster, it isn't listed as a Fusion Material Monster for King Dragun. Also, Level Up! and Level Modulation are a bit tricky to use, with the whole "This monster cannot be Special Summoned except by..." text on the higher-level monsters, even though the spells say to ignore the summoning conditions - the monsters with this summoning restriction have to have been previously summoned properly in order to be used with Level Up! and Level Modulation, sorta like the rulings with Monster Reborn, Premature Burial, and Call of the Haunted (unless they've been changed...). Soooo, I made some more tweaks to the deck:
- 2 Dragon's Mirror, Level Up!, Level Modulation
+ Polymerization, Fusion Recovery, King of the Swamp, Spear Dragon
Hopefully this will allow me to bring out King Dragun easier. Plus Spear Dragon's a pretty decent beatstick - he'll be a "filler" until I can get a Tyrant Dragon once again. =3
Any comments??
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I'm just getting warmed up, Tetsaru!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/163963370Master%20Ohga.bmp)
Here's something even worse than Setsuna! As soon as I can find a program that converts BMPs to Jpegs, I would publish Setsuna's entire deck!
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(http://www.geekfag.com/images/668408294alf.jpg)
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Hey Keenon, what program do you use to make BMPS into JPEGS so they would be easier to load up? I hate the fact that my creations take so long to load!
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Behold, my first card creation!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/232459463Nanako,%20the%20Amazing%20Nurse.jpg)
What do you guys think?
Hey Keenon, what program do you use to make BMPS into JPEGS so they would be easier to load up? I hate the fact that my creations take so long to load!
Hmm, all I had to do was go to File -> Export -> Card Image... (something like that) and it let me save my card as a .jpeg file. Then I just uploaded it via geekfag, like I do with everything else. =/
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Made another one, lol... =3
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/557281268BE%20Growth.jpg)
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Here's more of Setsuna's finest cards!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/187674419Diabolic%20Reload.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/208962568Evil%20Seductive%20Smile.jpg)
I may add more, I can't wait to see a Nanako deck! Awesome pics!
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And now, Five Doctors.
(http://x2a.xanga.com/febd0b5b2023482879495/w56722036.jpg)
(http://x7c.xanga.com/261d315bc023782879496/w56722037.jpg)
(http://x65.xanga.com/2f5d355a4023782879497/w56722038.jpg)
(http://x8e.xanga.com/2ada945bd443382879501/w56722040.jpg)
(http://x79.xanga.com/0f9d1326d473282879505/w56722043.jpg)
More Doctors to come.
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Here's more of Setsuna's cards!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/451438714Dark%20Direct%20Assault.jpg)
For some reason, the images won't upload the way I want them too. All I get are Xs man, even though I converted all of those images into Jpegs!
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Finally! More uploading fun!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/110358229Tactical%20Dark%20Reload.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/526614944Sinister%20Gloat%20.jpg)
Crazy Geekfag.... Do you know any other good uploading sites?
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Here's a Rushuna card! I may update it, but it will have to do!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/188196186Rushuna%20Tendou.jpg)
By the way, R-9 and Tetsaru, nice cards! I like the Nanako and B.E. ones, they would definately give the ladies a power boost!
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Updated the Nanako card and created a few others using some of the pictures I had, lol...
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/804579560Nanako%20the%20Amazing%20Nurse.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/156619435Tetsaru%20Arigashi.jpg)
Some of my friends from the ASU Anime Club, lol:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/171498878Pleasant%20Distraction.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/667156764Swordfish.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/376738442Pissed-Off%20Chibi%20Neko-Girl.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/784626710Nintendo%20Wii.jpg)
And, of course, I couldn't go without making a good old fashioned Yugioh Trap Card (even though the template for it kinda sucks...):
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/835890134Damn%20Slime.jpg)
Hee hee... this program is fun! =D
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And now, Gunslingers.
(http://x6f.xanga.com/a9ea961263d3383972101/w57585343.jpg)
(http://x52.xanga.com/e1da9a1063d3383972102/w57585344.jpg)
(http://x74.xanga.com/d8ba801663d3383972103/w57585345.jpg)
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Nice cards Tetsaru, for an unglued set.
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Nice cards Tetsaru, for an unglued set.
Thanks, I've got some more that I'll try to upload later.
Btw, anyone go to the Cyberdark Impact pre-release event? I wasn't able to go, unfortunately, but I did find an image of the Cyberdark Dragon card:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=1165&ID=22919 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=1165&ID=22919)
That site has some of the other cards from the set too, but not all of them.
Also, I got my hands on this unexpected but nice surprise:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=22223 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?ID=22223)
Yep, F.G.D., or Five-Headed Dragon as he is called now, is now available in the U.S. through a bundle that also includes the new dinosaur structure deck and a booster pack of Power of the Duelist. I threw that fother mucker in my new dragon deck (which I'm still tweaking a bit, seeing how I'm still needing some cards for it), but I'm not entirely sure if Dragon's Mirror will work towards summoning him. Technically, I think it can, but seeing how Yugioh's official card ruling database sucks ass and never has the answers I need... >X(
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I too has gotten my hands on a bundle... Unfortunately you can only get this suprise either in a hobby store, in a tournament, or off the internet.
Also, watch out for anime girl cards coming soon!
Question, should I do a Magic Users Club set or something else?
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I too has gotten my hands on a bundle... Unfortunately you can only get this suprise either in a hobby store, in a tournament, or off the internet.
Also, watch out for anime girl cards coming soon!
Question, should I do a Magic Users Club set or something else?
What does this bundle have in it?? Just curious...
As far as your anime girl cards go, do whichever set you want to, although I'd prefer Magic, since their template on that program looks a LOT better than the Yugioh one at this point. I don't play the other games, so I haven't checked out their respective templates yet... I wouldn't know what they're supposed to look like, anyway... =/
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What does this bundle have in it?? Just curious...
As far as your anime girl cards go, do whichever set you want to, although I'd prefer Magic, since their template on that program looks a LOT better than the Yugioh one at this point. I don't play the other games, so I haven't checked out their respective templates yet... I wouldn't know what they're supposed to look like, anyway... =/
The bundle of course, has almost all of the Magic Users Club characters in it. Let's look at the playing style of the basic characters.
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Sae: Just your typical basic character, a good balance of big creatures and small creatures that can get bigger by accident, due to certain spell cards. Good for beginners. COLORS: Red and Green
Akane: Relying too much on spells and little creatures. Akane's tardyness can summon a bigger creature late in the game, and instead focusing on messing up your opponent with spells, both sorceries and instants. COLORS: Green and Blue
Nanaka: More of a down to earth type of girl that believes in ending the game quickly by summoning smaller creatures that rush in while boosting them with spell cards. Almost like Saes but more on the expert level. COLORS: Red and White
Takeo: Drawing cards, as well as summoning artifacts that help creatures get summoned more quickly. He also likes to add mana to his pool by tapping certain creatures. Another expert deck. COLORS: Blue and White
Aburatsubo: Discard. He discards cards from both his opponent's hands and his own,
powering up his own creatures in the process. He adores what cards Takeo has in his hand, despite the playing style. COLORS: Red and Black.
Miyama: Control and Fear. She believes in creature destruction, as well as spell cards that completely turn the opponent's strategy against them. She also tends to summon creatures that completely switch places with another creature, as well as a suicide rush to completely ruin another creature's attempt. COLORS: Blue and Black.
Jeff-Kun: Tokens! Tokens tokens tokens! Jeff the teddy bear has a style that revolves around tokens, and uses it to overwhelm the competition. COLORS: White and Green.
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And that's it for the main characters.... Which one shall I do first?
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Now that I finished nearly all of the characters, all I need now are some good pictures of the characters shown. Or should I add more characters and style to the mix?
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Now that I finished nearly all of the characters, all I need now are some good pictures of the characters shown. Or should I add more characters and style to the mix?
Hey man, it's your set - throw in as much stuff as you want to! Personally I've just been making cards based on characters I like and any pics I had on me at the time. Check these out:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/225130202Edward.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/677422188Run%20Like%20a%20Pansy.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/739920229Kanti.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/373709186Godzilla.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/534768465Heart%20of%20the%20Cards.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/394178539PWNZD!!!.jpg)
I made this one as a variation of the real Telepathy card:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/606973256Telesthesia.jpg)
Another pic of the drumline I'm in:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/108871609Synchronization%20Spectacle.jpg)
My first land card:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/680719228Midgar.jpg)
And a mini-theme: Prinnies!
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/227329601Prinny.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/337350765Prinny%20Squad.jpg)
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/993195365Etna,%20Beauty%20Queen.jpg)
What do you guys think?
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Wow.... How do you make those hybrid symbol things? Even I couldn't pull that one off.
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Wow.... How do you make those hybrid symbol things? Even I couldn't pull that one off.
It's easy - type the letter for one colored mana symbol first (W, U, B, R, or G), then type a forward slash and the other colored mana symbol. For example, to make the ones used in my Edward card, type U/R or R/U (I think either way will produce the same symbol). If you're still getting text, highlight what you've typed and then click the star-shaped button to change the text into symbols. Oh, and one more thing that you may not know - to make a snow mana symbol (like the ones used in the recent Coldsnap expansion), type S.
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Thanks. I'll see what I can do.
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I recently made myself a new deck based off of one posted on Pojo.com a while back. It uses Sacred Phoenix of Nephtys, Dark Dust Spirit, and Treeborn Frog to constantly nuke the field of everything! You use Mystic Tomato, Sangan, and Apprentice Magician to search out your Pheonix and Frog, then tribute the frog for Dark Dust Spirit while the Phoenix is on the field. Dark Dust Spirit will destroy all face-up monsters except himself and then (possibly) swing for 2200 damage. On your next Standby Phase, summon the Phoenix from your graveyard, nuking all spells and traps on the field. Then, during the same standby phase, summon Treeborn Frog from your graveyard, since you don't have any spells or traps out now. Then tribute him for Dark Dust Spirit all over again!
The deck, although cheaply powerful when you get it going, has some major weaknesses I'm trying to compensate for. First of all, after you nuke everything with Phoenix and Dark Dust Spirit, when he comes back to your hand at the end of the turn, you're wide open. Thus, I've thrown in 3 Kuribohs to help block any battle damage in case my opponent manages to topdeck and summon a monster to attack me. Second of all, trap cards have very limited use in this deck - they're only good for a turn or so if you get the combo going. Still, I've included 3 Negate Attacks, a Magic Cylinder, and a Ring of Destruction to help guard against possible attackers. Finally, face-down monsters aren't affected by Dark Dust Spirit's nuking effect, so I may not get the damage in that I need, or I could encounter a nasty flip effect. For these, I could just simply decide not to use the combo and react accordingly, or use good old cards like Nobleman of Crossout or Ceasefire.
I also threw in some good standards such as D.D. Warrior Lady, D.D. Assailant, Breaker the Magical Warrior, Magician of Faith, etc. I'll probably also throw in Pot of Avarice, since a lot of my own monsters might end up getting nuked. Lemme know what you guys think!
On a side note, a few weeks ago I entered a local tournament (though it was highly disorganized). My first opponent turned out to be a Level 1 Judge, and he stomped the hell out of my water deck with his machine deck. Makes me want to build one myself so badly... I DID manage to get an original Cyber Dragon out of a trade that day, though. Anyone who's still playing the game (or wants to get back into it) should try to find as many copies of this guy as possible, as he's in high demand. Other than finding a good deal on eBay, I'd suggest trying to find the recent tin version of him that came out in your local stores. It costs around $20-$25 and also comes with several booster packs. Whatever you do, don't make the mistake I did and trade a Cyber Dragon off, or a Cyber-Stein for that matter... >_<;
I'd also keep an eye out for this new structure deck in the future:
http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=37&ID=23022 (http://www.ideal808.com/product.asp?CategoryID=37&ID=23022)
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So far, I'm just done for Miyama, but I couldn't decide if I should send her in her regular clothes, or her bathing suit. Both versions sound so inviting, yet scary at the same time!
And it's virtually hard to get good shots of Miyama due to the contrast of the TV series and the OVAS. I kinda like the OVAs better, but the TV version looked like she got lyposuction, but she can still move around with the best of them.
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So far, I'm just done for Miyama, but I couldn't decide if I should send her in her regular clothes, or her bathing suit. Both versions sound so inviting, yet scary at the same time!
And it's virtually hard to get good shots of Miyama due to the contrast of the TV series and the OVAS. I kinda like the OVAs better, but the TV version looked like she got lyposuction, but she can still move around with the best of them.
Just curious, what series is this Miyama from??
I'd just use whatever image seems more appropriate for the card you're trying to make. Keep in mind that if you have multiple images, you could always make card types other than creature - instants or sorceries, for example. Or, you could make multiple versions of the same creature, if you so desire.
Here's the current list for that deck I mentioned earlier, although I'm needing a witty name for it... any suggestions/comments are always appreciated. Oh, and I finally got smart and reduced my normal deck size down to 40 cards, as recommended - it really does make a difference.
CREATURES (21)
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Dark Dust Spirit x2
Treeborn Frog
Hand of Nephthys x2
Apprentice Magician x2
Mystic Tomato x3
Sangan
D.D. Warrior Lady
D.D. Assailant
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Spirit Reaper
Old Vindictive Magician
Kuriboh x3
Magician of Faith
SPELLS (12)
Last Will
Pot of Avarice
Graceful Charity
Swords of Revealing Light
Nobleman of Crossout
Creature Swap x2
Smashing Ground
Lightning Vortex
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Premature Burial
TRAPS (7)
Negate Attack x3
Magic Cylinder
Ring of Destruction
Ceasefire
Call of the Haunted
If anyone else is still playing Yugioh or Magic, I'd love to see some decklists.
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Miyama is from the Magic Users Club. It's either her first name or her last name, even the dubbing cast gets it mixed up.
Mizuha Miyama.
Miyama Mizuha.
Oh, and as for your Phoenix Deck, I'd call it by the lines of
Bye Bye Birdie
Or Death and Rebirth of Nephytis.
It's up to you man.
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Oh, and as for your Phoenix Deck, I'd call it by the lines of
Bye Bye Birdie
Or Death and Rebirth of Nephytis.
It's up to you man.
Actually, I was kinda thinking about implementing the "Sup guys fried chicken" thing into it somehow, lol...
Btw, is there anyway else left on this forum who stills plays either Magic or Yugioh?? I'm starting to think I'm the only one now, since no one's posted any decklists lately... ;_;
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Cheer up Tetsaru, I got some deck ideas I've been working on for the last few years, primarly for a fiend destruction deck, involving some cool Dark World monsters.
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On a similar note, what Yu-Gi-Oh card would we create if the contest was more open to all ages? I'm not going to use the Magic Set Editor cause they make Yu-Gi-Oh cards look.... Not like Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
I have a vast imagination, and a whole set of cards. I'm not sure if I should create a Dark World card or an Elemental Villain card (Yes, I said VILLAIN, not HERO, since there's too many of them.)
UPDATE: I would be interested in seeing a new Spirit Card that will focus on summoning those spirit monsters much easier.
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Some announcements in the card game world:
Remember when McDonald's had that Yugioh promotion a while back where they put cards in the happy meals? Well, they're doing it again, and the cards (some of them, anyway) are a lot better off this time. Look for Elemental Hero Electrum, an alternate art Elemental Hero Burstinatrix, White-Horn Dragon, and The Flute of Summoning Kuriboh, to name a few.
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/414845919elemental%20hero%20electrum.jpg)
Also, Magic is having its prerelease of the Planar Chaos set on Jan. 20 and 21. If you manage to go to one of these events, keep an eye out for one of these:
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/341493421akroma%20angel%20of%20fury.jpg)
I can't wait to see the spoiler list for this set! They just seem to come out with crazier and crazier stuff...
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I can't wait to see the spoiler list for this set! They just seem to come out with crazier and crazier stuff...
"Magic: The Gathering... Getting crazier and crazier since 1996!"
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"Magic: The Gathering... Getting crazier and crazier since 1996!"
1993, actually... Yugioh came out in '96. But yeah, who cares... =/
I decided to call my new deck simply "Pheonix Destruction." Haven't really had the chance to play against anyone lately, though... guess I'll have to wait until Midsouthcon. It sucks that Arkansas doesn't have that many tournament locations that I could get involved with... perhaps I should try to get an account online...
Some other decks I'm wanting to build in the future: for Yugioh, a machine deck and a warrior/Elemental Heroes or Destiny Heroes deck. For Magic, a Sliver deck and a blue/white control deck that utilizes a lot of counters, bouncing and tapping permanents, and mana taxing against my opponent. Anyone who's familiar with the current metagame and knows of any good RECENT cards (as in Ravnica block, 9th edition, and Time Spiral block), combos, or decks, please let me know. I probably won't be able to build anything anytime soon, but I'm still open to suggestions.
I'm also still open to anyone else's deck ideas, as I'm curious to see what other people like to play and would happy to offer any help or advice if necessary. Post deck lists if you've got em!
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Well, here's a Noah Kaiba Spirit Deck that I am working on. Advice is greatly appreciated on how to incorporate these spirit monsters.
MONSTERS:
Fiber Jar
2 Fushi No Tori
Witch of Black Forest
Inaba White Rabbit
Dark Dusk Spirit
Sangan
3 Susa Soldier
Great Long Nose
2 Asura Priest
Yamata Dragon
Hino Kagu Tsuchi
3 Otohime
3 Maharaghi
Shinato
Tsukuyomi
Sinister Serpent
Yata Garasu
SPELLS:
3 Fengsheng Mirror
Shinatos Ark
Book of Moon
3 Spiritual Energy Settle Machine
3 Spring of Rebirth
Change of Heart
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole
Sebek's Blessing
Harpies Feather Duster
TRAPS:
3 Trap Hole
3 Level Conversion Lab
Waboku
3 Spirits Invitation
2 Sakuretsu Armor
Here it is! I don't know what I'll do for Magic yet.
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Well, here's a Noah Kaiba Spirit Deck that I am working on. Advice is greatly appreciated on how to incorporate these spirit monsters.
HMMMM... looks like this could use some work. Here's my advice:
I believe I counted 53 cards in your deck. That's a BIG no-no. Cut it down as close to 40 as you can.
Fiber Jar, Witch of the Black Forest, Tsukuyomi, Sinister Serpent, Yata Garasu, Change of Heart, Monster Reborn, Dark Hole, and Harpies Feather Duster - all currently banned, unless you're doing Traditional format, which I don't see many people doing that much anymore. Here's a link to the list of what to be aware of:
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current.aspx (http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current.aspx)
Well, to be quite honest man, this deck has no flow or strategy whatsoever. Most people today don't run Spirits due to the fact that 1. - they don't maintain good field prescence, 2. - a lot of them have to get in battle damage in order for their effects to work, 3. - level 5+ Spirits have to re-use tributes, and 4. - THEY CAN'T BE SPECIAL SUMMONED PERIOD. That means no Monster Reborn/Premature Burial/Call of the Haunted, no "tutor" monsters (like Mystic Tomato, etc.), no nothing. You should only run Spirits if they combo well with something (i.e., Dark Dust Spirit with Sacred Pheonix of Nephthys and Treeborn Frog in my "Pheonix Destruction" deck). Tsukuyomi was used a lot due to her useful Book of Moon effect, which could negate numerous effects and help take out high-ATK monsters, but she's banned now (and Book of Moon is now limited to 1)... and we all know about the infamous Yata-lock... >_< Also, be aware that if a Spirit monster ever gets destroyed, tributed, discarded, or removed from play, it DOES NOT go back to your hand at the End Phase.
Spiritual Energy Settle Machine is cool and all, but like any other Continuous Spell/Trap, Field Spell, or Equip Spell, you have to watch out for removal (speaking of which, I'm surprised you didn't add in a Mystical Space Typhoon or Dust Tornado in your deck). From what I've heard, the Monarch cards have been popular recently, and I can tell you right now that some people prefer Mobius the Frost Monarch over using Jinzo:
(http://ideal808.com/images%5Cdr3-en022.jpg)
It's good that you decided to run 3 copies of it, but always be cautious of relying on one specific card - you'll need ways to search your deck for it and/or recover it (another surprise - no Magician of Faith!). Remember in my old water deck how I threw in a Terraforming to help find A Legendary Ocean? Also, Spiritual Energy Settle Machine would've negated some of your "come-into-play" effects, such as those of Tsukuyomi and Dark Dust Spirit, which should be utilized over and over again... and that can only happen if they DO go back to your hand so that they can be re-summoned.
Also, ALWAYS remember the "staples" if you need some support. Cards such as Sangan, D.D. Warrior Lady, Magician of Faith, Cyber Dragon, Mystical Space Typhoon, Lightning Vortex, Sakuretsu Armor, Mirror Force, etc. will fit into practically ANY deck, more or less (as long as they aren't banned, lol - be sure to check the list often). It would be foolish not to run them.
Another thing I noticed was that you threw in Shinato, King of a Higher Plane. WHY?!? He has absolutely NO place in your deck! Ritual Monsters, to this day, still have little support going for them - Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands is about the only worthwhile Ritual support, imo. Granted that Shinato is one of the better Ritual Monsters out there, with only one copy each of the monster and its Ritual Spell in a 53 card deck, he's nothing but a dead draw, especially seeing how you won't have any monsters to tribute... because they'll always be going back to your hand!
Finally, be aware that throwing in cards that all share a similar theme is not always a good idea (especially if you're trying to copy a theme from the anime/manga - the real card game is much different!). It's important to read the effects of each card carefully to see how well they work together.
Sorry if I completely mutilated your deck there, LordRyunson, but I promise you that that deck would've gotten PWNED in a competitive environment - it just has no synergy. =(
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Well you're right. My Spirit Deck does need work, and Shinato is Noah's trademarked monster.
I am also working on an insect deck revolving around the Insect Queen. Got any suggestions for cards of that nature?
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Well you're right. My Spirit Deck does need work, and Shinato is Noah's trademarked monster.
I am also working on an insect deck revolving around the Insect Queen. Got any suggestions for cards of that nature?
Insect Queen, eh? Let's take a look:
(http://ideal808.com/images%5Cdb2-en123.jpg)
2200 ATK for 2 tributes. Yuck.
"You cannot declare an attack with this card without Tributing 1 monster on your side of the field. Very much yuck...
"Increase the ATK of this card by 200 points for each face-up Insect-Type monster on the field." This effect would bring its ATK up to 2400 on its own (unless its Type got changed somehow), which is still horrible for 2 tributes - Dark Magician could run over that.
"Special Summon 1 'Insect Monster Token' (Insect-Type/EARTH/1 Star/ATK 100/DEF 100) in Attack Position on your side of the field during the End Phase of each turn that this card destroys your opponent's monster." Okay, so it can boost its ATK further by producing Insects... but summoning them in Attack Position at the End Phase of your turn ONLY IF you killed an opponent's monster with this already low-ATK monster?? That's just asking for trouble. I say no towards using this card.
I once tried to make an Insect deck, and one thing I noticed about them was that Insects have more "tutor" monsters than any other type: Gokipon, Howling Insect, Pinch Hopper, and perhaps even Flying Kamakiri #1, with Howling Insect being the best. Now that I look at it, you could probably use him to summon your Insect Queen, if you wanted, although I still wouldn't run it. You'll probably want to stick with 3 Howling Insects and 3 Pinch Hoppers, though - Gokipon's pretty much just a Sangan for Insects, plus his artwork creeps me out... >_<
There are also a buttload of other good Insects: Chainsaw Insect, Saber Beetle, Doom Dozer, Anteatereatingant, Needle Worm, Skull-Mark Ladybug, Swarm of Scarabs, Swarm of Locusts, Man-Eater Bug, 4-Starred Ladybug of Doom, 8-Claws Scorpion, the Ultimate Insect LV monsters (if you can summon them properly - try to get your opponent to destroy a Howling Insect with the last attack of their Battle Phase, then summon LV1 and upgrade him your next turn!), Insect Knight, Silent Insect, Arsenal Bug, Parasite Paracide (which could work with Insect Queen, Insect Princess, and Insect Barrier, although I'm not sure if there are any rulings against being able to put it on top of your opponent's deck when you shuffle it, as that's what me and my friends always did when we used to run it), Atomic Firefly... that's about all I can think of, but that's PLENTY, just look up the ones you're not familiar with and run the ones you like (without putting in too many, of course!). I'd also suggest running Prickle Fairy - although she's a Plant, she's an awesome defensive monster that can protect your Insect monsters from attacks.
Although there are a ton of good Insect monsters, unfortunately there aren't many good Spells or Traps specifically for them... Insect Imitation is about the only one I can think of, and you might be able to make use of DNA Surgery. Don't forget the "staples" if you have holes to fill. Hope that helps you. ^_^
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Well, now I plan to make a deck revolving around Barrel Dragon and Blowback Dragon. Those cards, in my opinion, are two of the greatest cards out there.
If possible, I could combine my Insect Queen with my Barrel Dragon monsters, and with the right spell and trap cards, they will be unbeatable!
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Well, now I plan to make a deck revolving around Barrel Dragon and Blowback Dragon. Those cards, in my opinion, are two of the greatest cards out there.
If possible, I could combine my Insect Queen with my Barrel Dragon monsters, and with the right spell and trap cards, they will be unbeatable!
Show me an interesting combo with this; otherwise, I wouldn't suggest combining those two themes. Insects and Machines have no support for each other and would make your deck huge and unplayable if you even tried, so do one or the other. Machines on their own are up there with Warriors in terms of overall strength now - I'd suggest looking into them. I'd make my own Machine deck had I the right cards...
Btw, Cyber-Stein has been re-banned, in case you haven't noticed. No more Cyber End Dragon One-Turn KO decks for you. =P
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Then if Insects and Machines can't help each other, then what types DO help each other? They should come out with new cards that support both Insect Queen and Barrel dragon, whether it be a fusion or an equipment card. Enough with the Elemental and Destiny Heroes! You think kids would want to be Jaden cause of him winning all the time with those dorky heroes?
I faced a person with an Elemental/Destiny Hero deck, and I still PWNED him. He sometimes PWNED me because he used the anime effects and not the real one.
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I always liked spikes in MTG better than anything.
I dunno why, just one of my first booster decks and something about the lil' guys with a crapload of tokens littering the card table... gives me an odd sense of joy inside.
But eh, I dunno about mtg lately... getting kind of out of hand >_>
Hey anybody ever played the star wars card game?
I'd check the last twelve pages but I'm not retarded enough for that.
Used to play that around same time as mtg back in high school days.
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Then if Insects and Machines can't help each other, then what types DO help each other?
I faced a person with an Elemental/Destiny Hero deck, and I still PWNED him. He sometimes PWNED me because he used the anime effects and not the real one.
Warriors and Spellcasters have The A. Forces and Mysterious Guard, but that's about it... so far, the Yugioh game isn't big on multi-type/attribute support, except for Chaos, which is now practically dead due to overpowered cards that are now banned...
Since all, if not most, of the Elemental/Destiny Heroes are Warrior, you could use stuff like Reinforcements of the Army and The Warrior Returning Alive, etc. And even though most Elemental Hero decks suck, I'm surprised at all the Fusion support for them, which is where their strength lies.
Oh yeah - NEVER play Yugioh against anyone who thinks that the TCG is in anything like the anime. Those kind of people are too young and/or stupid to be doing any competitive dueling. Of course, I can't really do any competitive dueling either since I live in Arkansas and all the main tourneys are held in Little Rock, which is at least 80 miles from where I live... >_<
I always liked spikes in MTG better than anything.
I dunno why, just one of my first booster decks and something about the lil' guys with a crapload of tokens littering the card table... gives me an odd sense of joy inside.
But eh, I dunno about mtg lately... getting kind of out of hand >_>
Hey anybody ever played the star wars card game?
I'd check the last twelve pages but I'm not retarded enough for that.
Used to play that around same time as mtg back in high school days.
One of my friends who got me into Magic loved token decks. He used to keep a jar of coins around whenever he played just so he'd have enough tokens.... O_O
It seems that this new Planar Chaos set is throwing the color pie out the window... I recently saw a red spinoff of Morphling, a green card-drawing spell, and a black Wrath of God... kinda scary.
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/139408498torchling.jpg)(http://www.geekfag.com/images/867291958harmonize.jpg)(http://www.geekfag.com/images/334829322mr261_damnation.jpg)
The Ravnica block was cool since it dealt with multiple colors, but this new set is making me wonder where the hell they're going with this. I thought it was cool that they brought back some of the old stuff, though, like the Slivers and Akroma, Angel of Wrath.
And no, I haven't played the Star Wars card game, sorry. All I play right now is Yugioh and Magic, and I've barely gotten into Heroclix, though I haven't played a good game yet since me and my friends were still trying to figure out all the rules.
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I'm not sure if I should put in my insect deck, primarly because I didn't include Gokipon and Howling Insect or Flying Kamakiri in there. I hope I can support the Insect Queen by any means possible. I added two in there, plus a magician of faith.
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Hey anybody ever played the star wars card game?
The constantly-name-changing entity known as Bill and myself, at the very least around here. Though I haven't played for some 9 or 10 years.
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I'm not sure if I should put in my insect deck, primarly because I didn't include Gokipon and Howling Insect or Flying Kamakiri in there. I hope I can support the Insect Queen by any means possible. I added two in there, plus a magician of faith.
Be wary of putting too many tribute monsters in your deck too, as they can easily become dead draws. If a tribute monster is the main focus of your deck, make sure you have plenty of support to help get it onto the field. If you don't have the proper support, I'd suggest adopting a theme that you've got plenty of cards for, or you could always try to buy the cards you need online or something. The structure decks (such as Warrior's Triumph) are a relatively cheap and easy way to get "staple" cards, such as Lightning Vortex.
If you've got a decklist, I'll be glad to offer some suggestions. It would also help if you told me where you're wanting to go with your deck in terms of strategy - beatdown, control, etc.
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This just in - the spoiler list for the Planar Chaos series has been released! Check it out:
http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/index.aspx?term=&Field_Name=on&Field_Rules=on&Field_Type=on&setfilter=Planar%20Chaos&sort=Color (http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/index.aspx?term=&Field_Name=on&Field_Rules=on&Field_Type=on&setfilter=Planar%20Chaos&sort=Color)
Also, here's an article that helps explain some of the reasoning behind all the changes in the color pie with this set:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/mr263 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/mr263)
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Be wary of putting too many tribute monsters in your deck too, as they can easily become dead draws. If a tribute monster is the main focus of your deck, make sure you have plenty of support to help get it onto the field. If you don't have the proper support, I'd suggest adopting a theme that you've got plenty of cards for, or you could always try to buy the cards you need online or something. The structure decks (such as Warrior's Triumph) are a relatively cheap and easy way to get "staple" cards, such as Lightning Vortex.
If you've got a decklist, I'll be glad to offer some suggestions. It would also help if you told me where you're wanting to go with your deck in terms of strategy - beatdown, control, etc.
Here's the insect deck list.
MONSTERS:
Parasite Paracide
Saber Beetle
2 ManEater Bug
2 Needle Worm
Skull Mark Lady Bug
Bombardment Beetle
Four Starred Ladybug of Doom
2 Chainsaw Insect
Tribe Infecting Virus
Insect Princess
2 Doom Dozer
Empress Mantis
Magician of Faith
Insect Knight
2 Insect Queen
Pinch Hopper
SPELLS:
2 Ground Collapse
Jade Insect Whistle
Nobleman of Crossout
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole
Nobleman of Extermination
Swords of Revealing Light
Insect Imitation
The Shallow Grave
2 Giant Trunade
Gaia Power
2 Multiplication of Ants
2 Insect Barrier
TRAPS:
Negate Attack
Waboku
2 DNA Surgery
Rope of Life
Magic Drain
Shift
Hopefully this will support my bigger insects. I'm planning to do control, beatdown, and of course, messing up my opponent.
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Here's the insect deck list.
One of the first things I noticed was the inclusion of Tribe Infecting Virus and a few other banned cards. Are you trying to run Traditional or Advanced format? If you're doing Traditional, you might as well put in several other cards that you otherwise couldn't use in Advanced... but since you've only got a few of these cards, and since I've grown accustomed to playing in Advanced format (it just seems a lot more fair than Traditional - you don't run into as many "Bullshit" Chaos/Yata-Lock/One-Turn-KO decks), I'll try to adjust it in such a way.
I counted 45 cards... not bad, but I'd still try to get it down to 40, so let's look at the different sections of your deck...
It looks like you've got 7 monsters that either require tributes or an alternate method of summoning - in other words, these monsters cannot be summoned immediately from your hand. This can be fatal if you're in a topdecking situation (which is when your hand is empty and you're relying on the card you draw each turn to help you). Since I know you were building around Insect Queen, we'll keep the two you already have. As for the others, I'd suggest taking one Doom Dozer, the Saber Beetle (Chainsaw Insect has the same ATK and doesn't require a tribute), and the Empress Mantis (she's basically useless compared to your other monsters). I would also take out the Bombardment Beetle (Man-Eater Bug essentially does the same thing, but is more reliable - just remember that you MUST destroy a monster when its effect is activated. If your opponent doesn't have any monsters, you'll have to destroy one of your own!), both Needle Worms (it doesn't seem that milling, or deck destruction, is part of your strategy), the Skull-Mark Ladybug (life-gaining only tends to lead towards stalling, and you want to destroy your opponent!), the 4-Starred Ladybug of Doom (its effect is tempting, but rather situational. Use your Spells and Traps, along with your Man-Eater Bugs for monster removal), the Insect Knight, and the Tribe-Infecting Virus (since it's banned).
- 1 Doom Dozer, Saber Beetle, Empress Mantis, Bombardment Beetle, 2 Needle Worm, Skull-Mark Ladybug, 4-Starred Ladybug of Doom, Insect Knight, Tribe-Infecting Virus
To replace these monsters, I highly recommend adding two more Pinch Hoppers. Those guys will help you get your Insect Queens out onto the field with ease once you have them in your hand. I'd also add two Parasite Paracides (for some combo purposes I'll discuss in detail later). Even though I said not to earlier, put in three Gokipons. Despite their creepy appearance, they will help fetch your flip-effect monsters (Parasite Paracide and Man-Eater Bug). Normally, I'd say run three Howling Insects over Gokipon, but I've decided that they would not do as much good for your deck since the only monsters in your deck that would be searchable by them would be your flip-effect monsters, and they would need to be placed face-down in order to be of use - hence, putting them into your hand so you can set them. A Sangan will also help with this. Add in another Insect Princess and one Mobius the Frost Monarch (again, I'll explain later). Finally, add in two Prickle Fairies. They'll provide some defense and will stall your opponent.
+ 2 Pinch Hopper, 3 Gokipon, Sangan, 2 Parasite Paracide, 1 Insect Princess, Mobius the Frost Monarch, 2 Prickle Fairy
Now, for your spells. Take out the two Ground Collapses, the Jade Insect Whistle (when using Parasite Paracide's effect, just put him on top of the deck when you shuffle it instead of using this - as far as I know, it's legal cheating! =D), Monster Reborn, Dark Hole, Nobleman of Extermination, The Shallow Grave, and Gaia Power.
- 2 Ground Collapse, Jade Insect Whistle, Monster Reborn, Dark Hole, Nobleman of Extermination, The Shallow Grave, Gaia Power
Add in the following:
+ Mystical Space Typhoon, Premature Burial, Pot of Avarice, Lightning Vortex, 2 Creature Swap, Scapegoat, 2 Magical Mallet
For the traps, I suggest completely re-doing them:
- Negate Attack, Waboku, 2 DNA Surgery, Rope of Life, Magic Drain, Shift
+ Magic Cylinder, Ring of Destruction, Ultimate Offering, Call of the Haunted, Mirror Force (or Sakuretsu Armor), Dust Tornado
The new decklist (hope I got it right):
MONSTERS (23):
2 Insect Queen
2 Insect Princess
1 Doom Dozer
1 Mobius the Frost Monarch
3 Pinch Hopper
3 Gokipon
3 Parasite Paracide
2 Man-Eater Bug
2 Chainsaw Insect
2 Prickle Fairy
1 Sangan
1 Magician of Faith
SPELLS (16):
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Premature Burial
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Lightning Vortex
2 Creature Swap
2 Giant Trunade
1 Scapegoat
2 Magical Mallet
1 Insect Imitation
2 Multiplication of Ants
2 Insect Barrier
TRAPS (6):
1 Magic Cylinder
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Ultimate Offering
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Mirror Force/Sakuretsu Armor
1 Dust Tornado
TOTAL: 45
Hmm, I didn't get it any smaller... oh well, I'll let you toy with it. Here's the strategy:
Use Gokipon and Pinch Hopper to search out your Parasite Paracides, Insect Queens, and Insect Princesses (the Insect Princesses and Mobius will give you a few good Level 6 monsters to use Insect Imitation with). Let your opponent pull Parasite Paracide and turn all of his/her monsters into Insects. Then, use Insect Barrier and Swords of Revealing Light to keep them from attacking. Meanwhile, Insect Princess will force them into Attack Position anyway, so you can wail away at them and buff her up. You can also use Creature Swap to give your opponent your weaker token monsters and used flip effect monsters. Ultimate Offering will help give you more monsters to tribute, if necessary.
Hope this helps you! (damn, that was a long post...) ^_^;
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Thanks Tetsaru! Now I'm not sure if I should do a Barrel Dragon next, cause that's one of the greatest cards ever known. You got an idea for a deck list, cause I got one that's pretty much around both Barrel, Blowback, and Gatling.
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Thanks Tetsaru! Now I'm not sure if I should do a Barrel Dragon next, cause that's one of the greatest cards ever known. You got an idea for a deck list, cause I got one that's pretty much around both Barrel, Blowback, and Gatling.
A Machine deck should be fun to make, although there are tons of different ways to go with it (VWXYZ-monsters/fusions, the Ancient Gear monsters, Cyber Dragon monsters/fusions, the upcoming Gadgets, the 'Roids). I'll try to come up with something later - that last deck analysis along with some long band rehearsals and homework I had to do currently has my brain numbed right now... O_O
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Well homework has gotten me down as well. Well I hope you feel better Tetsaru! Oh, and thanks again for the advice on how to construct my deck. Hopefully I can post a fiend deck if you prefer.
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Well homework has gotten me down as well. Well I hope you feel better Tetsaru! Oh, and thanks again for the advice on how to construct my deck. Hopefully I can post a fiend deck if you prefer.
Post away, my good man. It'll probably be a whie before I get to them, though - I think my aunt had a birthday party planned for me, and I've got several more assignments and upcoming tests to worry about... >_<;
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Yes, and the textbooks in my area are long gone for some strange reason. Well as soon as I can get some free time, I'm going to post my Dark World deck, and possibly a deck revolving around Barrel and Blowback Dragons.
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And the show, Yu-Gi-Oh GX inspires me to write a GX Fanfiction. But I'm still trying to figure out what it should be about. Should I post it in the Writer's Block, or this thread?
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And the show, Yu-Gi-Oh GX inspires me to write a GX Fanfiction. But I'm still trying to figure out what it should be about. Should I post it in the Writer's Block, or this thread?
I don't see how Yu-Gi-Oh shows could inspire anyone to do anything but want to drink a quart of Bleach with a Chaser.
Seriously
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I don't see how Yu-Gi-Oh shows could inspire anyone to do anything but want to drink a quart of Bleach with a Chaser.
Seriously
Since when did that happen? Doesn't the Bleach kill you?
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Oh, and while we're on the subject, I am currently building some decks that use mostly the Kamigawa block, and I usually use Samurais, Demons and Ogres. Do you fellas have any ideas on what I should include in my Kamigawa decks?
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Oh, and while we're on the subject, I am currently building some decks that use mostly the Kamigawa block, and I usually use Samurais, Demons and Ogres. Do you fellas have any ideas on what I should include in my Kamigawa decks?
I once made a halfway-decent Ninja deck, but I took it apart since I didn't own any of the good ninja cards, like Ink-Eyes... =/ Basically, it involved a lot of blue and black creatures that either had flying, fear, or were unblockable, which could easily trigger the Ninjutsu abilities of the ninjas.
I don't see how Yu-Gi-Oh shows could inspire anyone to do anything but want to drink a quart of Bleach with a Chaser.
Seriously
Yeah... it sucks that stuff like Yugioh and Pokemon are actually really cool games, but the animes suck ass. =/
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I found a new promo that might fit in with your new Insect deck, LordRyunson. Not sure what game it's from, though...
(http://www.ideal808.com/images%5Cgx03-en001.jpg)
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Well the card is from Spirit Summoner for the DS... I think that card could work, provided I have the sleeves for it.
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Well the card is from Spirit Summoner for the DS... I think that card could work, provided I have the sleeves for it.
Hey, it's got an awesome effect, why not?? Besides, you could use a Pinch Hopper to summon it. If I were you, I'd definitely run one. More than one might be troublesome with the other tribute monsters you've already got. You might could take out some of the cards you don't like and run some more copies of Insect Imitation to use for him and your Insect Queens, provided you have a good amount of Level 6 monsters to use as tributes. Just be wary of running too many tribute monsters, and keep your deck size as close to 40 as you can.
As for the sleeves, you should always have a good supply of em, especially if you make multiple decks (you can color-code your decks with different colors, like blue sleeves for a water deck and green ones for an insect deck) or if you go to a lot of tournaments (worn sleeves are often seen as "marked cards," which is a no-no). Sleeves and deck boxes aren't that expensive, so I'm sure you can get yourself some more. UltraPro's stuff usually works well for me, and you can usually find them in the same areas where the cards are located in stores like Wal-Mart, etc.
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Right, well I might as well post a Dark World Deck that combines the brute power of Raviel and Demise, King of Armageddon. Do you have any advice for that?
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Right, well I might as well post a Dark World Deck that combines the brute power of Raviel and Demise, King of Armageddon. Do you have any advice for that?
Ok, let's take a look at these guys:
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Obviously, both of these monsters will take some careful planning in order to summon. I highly suggest building a deck either around one or the other, as these monsters have effects that conflict with each other. Raviel is used to GENERATE field presence and help fuel his attack-boosting ability to deadly levels, where Demise is used to DESTROY the field and isolate himself for a direct attack. That, AND you're wanting to throw in Dark World monsters? I feel that you're trying to put too much into one deck, and building around TWO difficult-to-summon monsters would be suicidal. Always keep this in mind. A good Fiend deck is not impossible though, so I'll give you some advice.
I don't suggest running ritual monsters that much, although there are several good ones, including Demise. If you decide to run him, you might as well run Ruin, Queen of Oblivion along with him, since they both require the same ritual spell in order to summon. Also, be sure to include proper support for them (of what little there is...) - Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands is a must, and there are other cards like Samsara and Ritual Foregone that you might could use.
If you go with Raviel, then you'll need to be able to summon him easily. One way to do this is to put 3 Giant Germs in your deck, and allow one to be destroyed in battle. You could then use its effect to summon the other two from your deck (provided that they're still in your deck) and increase your field presence. Treat your Giant Germs as I do with "tutor" monsters - try to get your opponent to use the last attack of their Battle Phase on them in order to bring out the monster you're REALLY trying to summon. Unless they have some form of removal, then that monster won't be at risk of being destroyed. You could also use Ultimate Offering to summon more Fiends, or maybe use Scapegoat along with DNA Surgery.
Some other monsters I'd recommend using - Snipe Hunter, Mystic Tomato, Slate Warrior, Dark Ruler Ha Des, Goblin King, Goblin Elite Attack Force, and Dark Necrofear. I'll try to post some more advice later. =D
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Right, I'm building an End of the World deck revolving around the two badass ritual monsters that share the same spell cards. Any advice on those?
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Right, I'm building an End of the World deck revolving around the two badass ritual monsters that share the same spell cards. Any advice on those?
I was actually hoping you'd go the other direction, lol, but that's okay... ^_^;
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Hmm... well, seeing as these guys are Light and Dark, I guess you could go for some sort of Chaos theme with this (I think these ritual monsters were actually modeled after the effects of the Envoy monsters). Of course, we all know that Chaos is dead (at least, in Advanced), but there are still a lot of legal cards out there that still utilize the whole "remove-from-play" theme (Return from the Different Dimension, Dimension Fusion, the "D.D.'s," Golden Homunculus, Gren Maju Da Eiza, Banisher of the Light, Banisher of the Radiance, Bazoo the Soul Eater, Strike Ninja, Dimensional Rift, Macro Cosmos, etc.) Other than that, I can't really think of anything that would work well with them, other than using your basic ritual support I mentioned earlier. I suggest sending me a decklist that I could toy with. =)
Btw, I heard rumors on Pojo.com that a new ban list is coming soon... I'll post a link when I find out more.
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Here it is! My Fiend Deck!
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MONSTERS:
Scarr, Scout of Dark World X3
Demise, King of Armageddon X3
Raviel X2
Archfiend of Gilfer X2
Goldd X2
Zure X3
Brron X3
Beiige X3
Sillva X3
Broww X3
SPELLS:
Graceful Charity
Mystic Plasma Zone
Gateway to Dark World X3
MST
Hammer Shot X2
Snatch Steal
End of The World X3
Tribute To The Doomed
Heavy Storm
Terraforming
Lightning Vortex
Dark World Lightning X3
Card Destruction
TRAPS:
Magic Jammer X2
Torrential Tribute
The Forces of Darkness X3
Call of the Haunted
Rising Energy
Chthonian Polymer
Sakuretsu Armor
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That's all she wrote. Post what you think!
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New ban list for Yugioh, effective March 1...
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx)
I only skimmed through it (still got some more homework I need to do...), but it looks like good old Magician of Faith and Breaker are now banned... ;_;
Also looked up this new Elemental Hero, since he was on there:
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Gotta go now... you might wanna revise your deck to suit these changes, LordRyunson. I'll get to it whenever I have time - sorry, but I've just been bogged down with work lately... >_<;
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Me too. I looked at the banned list and all our hard work on revamping the Insect Deck will be all for naught. Oh well, there's always traditional or fun and friendly games....
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Me too. I looked at the banned list and all our hard work on revamping the Insect Deck will be all for naught. Oh well, there's always traditional or fun and friendly games....
Whoa, hold up there man! Let's take a look at the deck again:
MONSTERS (23):
2 Insect Queen
2 Insect Princess
1 Doom Dozer
1 Mobius the Frost Monarch
3 Pinch Hopper
3 Gokipon
3 Parasite Paracide
2 Man-Eater Bug
2 Chainsaw Insect
2 Prickle Fairy
1 Sangan
1 Magician of Faith
SPELLS (16):
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Premature Burial
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Lightning Vortex
2 Creature Swap
2 Giant Trunade
1 Scapegoat
2 Magical Mallet
1 Insect Imitation
2 Multiplication of Ants
2 Insect Barrier
TRAPS (6):
1 Magic Cylinder
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Ultimate Offering
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Mirror Force/Sakuretsu Armor
1 Dust Tornado
TOTAL: 45
If memory serves me right (and correct me if I'm wrong), all that you'll need to replace would be the Magician of Faith and one of the Giant Trunades. Seeing how Snatch Steal became un-banned, you can throw in one of those. As for the Magician of Faith, you could try putting in that Brain Crusher card, provided it doesn't put too many tribute monsters in your deck... BUT, for this deck, that may be a good thing. Here, I'll let you in on a situational, yet interesting combo one of my friends came up with:
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To me, this combination is shaky at best (it screams "use Heavy Storm on me!"), but it basically allows you to dish out your life points to summon whatever you want (except the special summon only monsters, of course), practically WHENEVER you want, and then gain back half of whatever you paid the next turn. You could probably find another similar life-gaining card (like Solemn Wishes) instead, but I feel that Life Absorbing Machine would be the most effective. I tried looking up Spell Economics towards this combo, but it doesn't work, unfortunately... >_<; Be careful if you use this combo, though - it's extremely vulnerable to S/T removal, and relying on life gain is a poor way to defend yourself, as it doesn't eliminate your threats. My old chaos deck ran 3 Spell Absorptions and removal from play out the ass, often giving me 20,000+ life!... and on occasion, I'd still lose because my opponent would have a full field of monsters (warrior toolbox, for example - creating attack locks and building up field advantage since nothing could be killed), and I would eventually run out of ways to defend myself. Direct attack swarm ftl...
Now then, let's look at this fiend deck you made...
Here it is! My Fiend Deck!
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MONSTERS:
Scarr, Scout of Dark World X3
Demise, King of Armageddon X3
Raviel X2
Archfiend of Gilfer X2
Goldd X2
Zure X3
Brron X3
Beiige X3
Sillva X3
Broww X3
SPELLS:
Graceful Charity
Mystic Plasma Zone
Gateway to Dark World X3
MST
Hammer Shot X2
Snatch Steal
End of The World X3
Tribute To The Doomed
Heavy Storm
Terraforming
Lightning Vortex
Dark World Lightning X3
Card Destruction
TRAPS:
Magic Jammer X2
Torrential Tribute
The Forces of Darkness X3
Call of the Haunted
Rising Energy
Chthonian Polymer
Sakuretsu Armor
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That's all she wrote. Post what you think!
57 cards, man. Ew. *puts the deck into the Tetsaru de-crappy-ization filter...*
- 3 Demise, King of Armageddon, 1 Raviel, Lord of Phantasms, 2 Archfiend of Gilfer, 3 Zure, Knight of Dark World, 3 Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World, 1 Graceful Charity (it got banned), 1 Mystic Plasma Zone, 2 Hammer Shot, 3 End of the World, 1 Tribute to the Doomed, 1 Terraforming, 1 Dark World Lightning, 2 The Forces of Darkness, 1 Rising Energy, 1 Chthonian Polymer
That takes out 26 cards, putting you at 31. I suggest adding in some of the following monster cards, based on your preferences:
Snipe Hunter, Mystic Tomato, Slate Warrior, Dark Ruler Ha Des, Goblin King, Goblin Elite Attack Force, Dark Necrofear, Giant Germ
There may be some other good ones I forgot to mention, but those monsters should serve you well. I also believe that there will be some new Dark World cards coming in the next expansion, Strike of Neos, so keep an eye out for em.
For spells, I suggest these: Premature Burial, The Puppet Magic of Dark Ruler, Giant Trunade, Smashing Ground, The Cheerful Coffin
Good job putting Card Destruction in there! However, a nasty thing I learned about Dark World decks is that the monsters will NOT be special summoned if you discarded them as a cost (hence, taking out Tribute to the Doomed, etc... Raigeki Break's better than that, anyway). Try using The Cheerful Coffin to bring them out instead.
For traps: Mirror Force, Magic Cylinder, Ring of Destruction. Staples, staples, staples, my friend. You can't go wrong with em.
Now then - fiddle around with these suggestions (along with the ones for the Raviel and Demise monsters) and show me what you come up with. =D
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Okay, here's my modified Dark World Deck (It's meant to swarm the opponent with Dark World Monsters, but if you want to take out core choices....) based on your suggestions.
MONSTERS:
Snipe Hunter,
Mystic Tomato,
Slate Warrior,
Dark Ruler Ha Des,
Goblin King,
Goblin Elite Attack Force,
Dark Necrofear,
Giant Germ
Scarr, Scout of Dark World X3
Raviel
Goldd X2
Brron X3
Sillva X3
Broww X3
SPELLS:
Premature Burial,
The Puppet Magic of Dark Ruler,
Giant Trunade,
Smashing Ground,
The Cheerful Coffin
Gateway to Dark World X3
MST
Snatch Steal
Heavy Storm
Lightning Vortex
Dark World Lightning X2
Card Destruction
TRAPS:
Mirror Force,
Magic Cylinder,
Ring of Destruction
Magic Jammer X2
Torrential Tribute
The Forces of Darkness
Call of the Haunted
Sakuretsu Armor
Well here it is. I don't know how many cards is that going to be, but I'm sure my fiends will have a fighting chance one way or another, even without Demise's help.
Oh, and while we're on the discussion of fiends, are there cards to make an Archfiend Deck? Primarly because I can't find it in my own house!
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Here's an Archfiend Deck that I remember from the top of my head. It's not much, but it should fit in the advanced format of things.
ARCHFIEND DECK
MONSTERS:
Terrorking Archfiend
Skull Archfiend of Lightning
Summoned Skull
Archfiend Soldier
Pandemonium Watchbear X2
Great Maju Garzett
Vilepawn Archfiend X3
Shadow Knight Archfiend X2
Desrook Archfiend X2
Dark Bishop Archfiend
Infernal Queen Archfiend
SPELLS:
Axe of Despair X2
Falling Down X3
Final Countdown X2
Checkmate X3
Archfiends Oath X3
Pandemonium X2
TRAPS:
Battle Scarred X3
Archfiends Roar X3
Sakuretsu Armor X3
That's all I could remember from a Toywiz Deck that was made several years ago. I'll try to find it during my Spring Break. It should have fourty cards... If only I could remember what else to put in there!
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As of today, I found the Archfiend Deck! It was in storage the whole time! I found out that it had two scapegoats, so I replaced one with a third Axe of Despair. Got any ideas on making the archfiend deck, primarly because this deck was made when Scapegoat wasn't restricted.
I'll post the details if you like.