RPG thread

[Qwerty1]

Oh, and 6., Wanderers from Ys III.

[tsar]

It says RPG thread.  Not Real-time Action RPG Thread.   Don't discount 90% of the RPGs becuase you don't like the turn-based style.  RPGs also do not need overwhelming graphics.  They didn't in 2000 and they still don't now.  Furthermore, Gamespy or some site like that gave it the award for best RPG music of all time, so it still has high quality about it even if you don't like the graphics.
With all your neativity I strongly question whether you played more than 5 hours into it.  If you did, ok, thats your opinion.  If not, don't judge it unfairly.

First, RPG stands for Role Playing Game. I'm not sure if you knew, but the term "RPG" covers a pretty wide variety of games. MMORPG, LARP(G), and the many variations of console and computer RPGs.

Second, I never said RPGs need overwhelming graphics, but the fact that SoA has shitty graphics doesn't help.

Third, I don't give a shit about what Gamespy thinks, or any other site/publication like that. They're only good for providing news, not opinions (in my opinion).

And, last, I specifically said I couldn't get into it, which must mean that I didn't play for too long. Typical turn-based trash. I'm glad you're satisfied with that sort of thing, but I need more than what it provides.

[HMD]

So wait, if I play a game that I am currently not liking, but if I play it until it hits that magical "good" point, I'll end up liking it? Even if during the times of the game in question I am completely bored stiff and am resisting the temptation to put in Devil May Cry or put a bullet through my skull? Well then shit; I oughta get this ADHD checked out then. I'd hate to say something incredibly stupid that makes me sound retarded.

[Qwerty1]

Hi! we're Khris and HMD, and we're almost 14! We'll jump in a thread where others are reminiscing about old RPGs they like and talk bad about them!

[tsar]

Wait a second. I didn't realize we couldn't express distaste for certain games. My bad, guy.

HEY GUYS, TOP GAMES! ^_^
1. Vandal Hearts I
2. Vandal Hearts II
3. Secret of Mana games
4. Shining Force games
5. Dragon Warrior VII

coolies, huh? ^___^

[Kiinan Yamasu]

My Top 10 RPGs:

1) Chrono Trigger
2) Secret of Evermore
3) Legend Of Dragoon
4) Final Fantasy 7
5) Live-A-Live
6) Final Fantasy 4
7) Dragon Quest 8
8) Earthbound
9) Threads Of Fate
10) Final Fantasy 10

[Qwerty1]

Wait a second. I didn't realize we couldn't express distaste for certain games. My bad, guy.

HEY GUYS, TOP GAMES! ^_^
1. Vandal Hearts I
2. Vandal Hearts II
3. Secret of Mana games
4. Shining Force games
5. Dragon Warrior VII

coolies, huh? ^___^

Yeah, well, sorry I got pissed.

[R-9]

So wait, if I play a game that I am currently not liking, but if I play it until it hits that magical "good" point, I'll end up liking it? Even if during the times of the game in question I am completely bored stiff and am resisting the temptation to put in Devil May Cry or put a bullet through my skull? Well then shit; I oughta get this ADHD checked out then. I'd hate to say something incredibly stupid that makes me sound retarded.

I had the exact opposite problem with Final Fantasy 7. It was good out of the gate, but faded in the stretch.

My biggest complaint about a number of RPGs nowadays would have to be, for the most part, their excessive length. They try to stretch too little story over too much time. Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, and Riviera are about 20+ hours of awesome (Even though it feels like one-third of SoM is leveling up your magic), Parasite Eve was nice, well-paced 8-10 hours. I just can't see myself investing 70-100+ hours into any game that's not Ultima IV (or V, for that matter).

HMD describes a variation of another beef I occasionally express, known to me as the "Get to the Point" problem. If an RPG dicks around with me too long before getting to the meat of the story, then it's not really worth my time (And in Xenosaga episode I, I'm not sure they ever even really Get to the Point).

[importgamer13]

Soemthing i really like about RPGs is the characters,their backstory,how you can upgrade their abilities,and how they interact with everyone else in the game.

Another feature i like about RPGs(not all of them have it,though)is creating your own character.You could make someone that looks similar to you.Or,say if in real life,you've always wanted to be a bigger,stronger person.Well,in PSO Plus,you could make yourself in a big bulky android if you wish.

Ever have something you've always been curious to see,say a healer that uses a sword?Look at Final Fantasy Tactics.Make yourself into a Priest that has the Equip Sword ability!

in Star Wars KOTOR,a good way to inspire morale in your party is to talk to your party members and find out what's troubling them,such as the way Mission Vao feels about her missing brother.

Games like Chrono Trigger and Sailor Moon- Another Story even have multiple characters combining magic attacks.With Chrono Trigger it's 3 characters,and in Sailor Moon- Another Story,you can even get all 5 of your party members to do a team magic attack,which can differ on what battle formation your Sailor Senshi are currently formed up in!

RPGs have come along way in recent years.You can even upgrade your weapons and armor in games like KOTOR and putting additional Units (Such as Cure/Freeze) into the slots of your armor in PSO Plus.

I guess i like RPGs overall because they utilize and stretch the imagination,weather it's older games like Final Fantasy 2 and Phantasy Star,to recent games like Elder Scrolls-Oblivion,and the upcoming Phantasy Star Universe.

[JG]

My biggest complaint about a number of RPGs nowadays would have to be, for the most part, their excessive length.

Agreed.  For a long time 20-40 hours was the right mark.  Then all of a sudden it jumped up to 70-100.  A few, Skies of Arcadia (about 70) and Tales of Symphonia (about 100) are tolerable, although still a little long in some parts.  Others, like Dragon Quest VII (110) or Tales of Legendia (130!), progress too slowly to be as enjoyable as they should be, had they dropped some of the more tedious parts of those games.   I used to be able to work an RPG into my schedule over the course of a month to a month and a half.  It took me two and half to finish DQ7 and nearly four to finish ToL.  That's too long.

[DualSoul]

I don't mind RPGs with excessive lengths.  Mostly because I typically make them longer by power-levelling my characters in zones that I have no business staying in.

[tsar]

I don't see how you could do that for a standard bread 'n' butter RPG.

You can tell that you hate turn-based battle systems when you tend to choose the auto function before anything else.

[ROMate]

I power level like hell in turn-based RPGs. 2 or 3 hours of levelling makes all the difference when later on you can blow through the harder battles like they were nothing. In FF7, I got everyone's level 3 limit breaks before reaching Junon the first time. In doing so, I nearly maxed a lot of elemental materia and counter-attack materia. Later, when fighting enemies with element-based attacks, It's Elemental-Stupid Fucking Powerful Element Materia in the armor, I'm immune, I own. Get big limit break, do big damage, own. Counter attack twice per turn, own. Own own own own own, all for 3 hours in the stupid cave after the swamp.

[tsar]

See, that's precisely why I can't get into that sort of game. At least with the pseudo-action RPGs, you have to be able to dodge. In a tactics RPG, you have to actually arrange an army to defeat the other army, or accomplish whatever task you're supposed to.

Turn-based doesn't give me enough to really think about. It really is a type of game that anyone can complete.

[ROMate]

Yeah, though in some tactical RPGs, there seems to be too much to think about, at least for me. Front Mission 4 was great, but I'm managing HP for 4 different parts of my giant robots, HP of my pilot, skills, ammo, action points (which let me act during a turn), unit placement, unit maneuvers, what weapons I'm using, what equipment I'm wearing, and so on.

[tsar]

Haha, and I happen to love that shit. There's so much control, and so much that you have to think about.

I guess I just like games to give me a complex challenge.

[ROMate]

I played and finished Front Mission 3. It's an adjustment for me. It took a while until I could take it all into consideration and manage it efficiently.

[Spaceworlder]

RPGs are my favorite kind of assault weapon.

[EnsignRyusei]

Well, heres my list:


1.Riviera(GBA)
2.Skies Of Arcadai:Legends(GameCube)
3.Grandia(PS1)
4.Tales Of Symphonia(GameCube)
5.Final Fantasy VIII(PS1)
6.Tales Of Phantasia(GBA)
7.Star Ocean:Till The End Of Time(PS2)
8.Chrono Trigger

And thats all i can think of now.

I'd add my favorite SRW's to the list, but then it would be a SRW-only list

[R-9]

RPGs are my favorite kind of assault weapon.

Couldn't afford an accurate weapon, huh?