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Title: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 19, 2023, 07:30:42 pm
Just going to throw these under a new thread.
I dont know where else to put them.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 19, 2023, 07:33:54 pm
P-Mate 2002 August issue
Preview of Viper RSR
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 26, 2023, 04:52:36 am
E-Login 1996 September
SOGNA interview
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 26, 2023, 04:53:19 am
E-Login 1996 September - Part 2
Extra stuff
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 26, 2023, 05:28:01 am
Dengeki Hime 2002 October
Viper RSR review

This one was kind of disappointing,
after seeing Viper RSR on the table of contents,
but only having a tiny section for it on the listed page.. lol
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on March 14, 2023, 10:36:57 am
Tech Gian 2000 January
P. Warrior Interview

Translated that little mini comic of the editor's adventure in Sogna's studio,
it got the name wrong on 2 of the panels. but you get the gist of the "adventure"

OH yeah, a slight change Cala's color palette on the bottom left
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on March 19, 2023, 11:57:39 am
E-Login 1996 March

Review of Viper V16
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on June 13, 2023, 02:19:49 pm
just wanted quickly get a scan of this up
this scene was censored in the games.

これが新しいマット運動だぁ!
これて気持ちよく汗が流せる?
This is the new mat exercise!
Can you comfortably work up a sweat with this?

いとこ、美樹の出現であすかちゃんピンチ?
Is Asuka-chan in trouble with the appearance of his cousin, Miki?
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on June 19, 2024, 11:02:59 pm
Now here's a treat, an uncensored version of Asuka from Viper CTR.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 05, 2025, 04:21:28 am
okay, so i traced the line art from the magazine scan to the actual ANM. maybe i'll try to see if i can uncensor the rest of the frames to make an animation... maybe...
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: Moge on August 16, 2025, 03:46:27 pm
Pretty good.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 20, 2025, 02:28:04 am
i noticed some story boards in the background of this interview, i used AI to remove the black text, it seems Julietta was supposed to have a doggystyle pose and a close up of her reaction too.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: Rai on August 21, 2025, 03:14:35 pm
That's really cool. It's amazing how much of the Julietta scene got left on the cutting floor, even with the DVD version expansion.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: JG on August 23, 2025, 09:26:45 pm
... it seems Julietta was supposed to have a doggystyle pose and a close up of her reaction too.

Not really news. One of the Julietta doggystyle cel sketches showed up for sale online years after the game launched. The background photos probably helped authenticate it as a real, original cel.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 23, 2025, 09:36:06 pm
 we knew there were a lot of scenes missing, ya i've seen that cell before, but i haven't seen wide shot of the doggystyle position until now. at least just in storyboard form.
To me that cel looks like she's lying down, specially with the drops of sweat (or spit?) below her chin?  and if she was in the doggy style position, i believe her breasts would be hanging down in that shot.  :undecided
or are you talking about a different cel?
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: JG on August 24, 2025, 01:01:46 pm
They are hanging down. Based on the storyboard, it appears she may start with upper body and head laying down, but then raises herself up on to elbows. Forearms, wrists, and fists still on surface, but head and body above. Chin is above surface to explain the sweat drops, but hair drops further down. An arch in back may be hiding much of her breast size but nonetheless still hanging. The cel notes indicate shoulder and head movement, so seems like they'd be above surface.

I see the cel as a later image in the attached sequence. Closeup and from opposite side.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 24, 2025, 01:48:43 pm
I donno, man.. remember, her hands are bound behind her during the scene, it doesn't make sense for me for her hands to suddenly be free,
its not until the aftermath that she has her hands free.  and in the storyboard it looks like her shoulders are resting on the bed.

maybe it was a discarded scene?  well, yes it was, but perhaps another version of this scene, i donno.

EDIT: now im thinking it was a scene taken out AFTER her scene with Diablo, because she has no mouth gag nor the straps, and her dress is off completely it looks like.
plus it looks like her ears are not as big as her final design, could be an earlier design of her too and even an earlier draft of RSR, since she is biracial her ears could've looked like that at one point.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: JG on August 25, 2025, 02:24:54 pm
Its my understanding it was for a second scene but I guess they felt one scene for Julietta was enough to tell the story (and it is.) Cala needed the extra scenes though since she was the main heroine and had to put up with more 'torture segments'

I think they were aware from an early point that space was going to be a concern, with more animated scenes than ever before, as well as using more and higher quality audio tracks, and didn't really want to exceed CD size media. Which of course they did anyway, giving us a trimmed CD version and the DVD "Director's Cut" edition.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: Rai on August 25, 2025, 05:47:00 pm
The storyboard does make it look like the wide shot cuts directly to the close up, and with her arms behind her back in the wide shot but hand bracing on the bed in the close up. Maybe suddenly unbound hands were a continunity error.

There's another possibility in how to interpret the roughs, but I want to try drawing it out to see if it makes sense.

Edit: Like this. The closeup initially looks to me like in the cel sketch, but it could be consistent with the other pose if the lines at the bottom represent her breasts pressed against the bed instead of her forearm.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: Rai on August 25, 2025, 06:29:45 pm
Something else I noticed: The climax of the Julietta sex scene is the 830 sequence. In 830A she's on her back. In 830B he turns her on her side like this and 830C is the closeup of her while on her side. The next anm is 830I and she's on her back again. The first cell of the storyboard looks like she's in the side-pose and the next few are her getting turned into the face-down position. I really think this pose sequence represents the missing 830D - 830H part of the scene.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 25, 2025, 09:47:02 pm
i tried to put that in visual form, next to the filenames.
It seems to have lined up for 830D-830H, and that might have been the missing doggystyle scene.

For the 2nd pic, i am less confident about...  it kind of looks like it was combined, i mean looks like C? looks like her exposed breast from A's animation,
and right before that it looks like a scene similar to Veloce's breast grab and kneading of Cala.  from what I can make out.

I tried to find the original magazine so I can scan it again, i wanted to try and align the storyboard going across the 2 pages.
Title: Re: Japanese Magazine Scans
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 26, 2025, 01:03:25 am
okay, i found the pages, but it didn't come from my collection unfortunately, it came from the Internet Archive's P-Mate 2000 Dec issue.
now i have to find the issues around this in case there is any more Viper content in them.
its like right in the middle of a chunk of missing issues from my collection.

Oh, and it looks like these scenes are just Diablo removing Julietta's panties.
Perhaps its the missing 827? could be 827A and 827B.