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Non-Sogna/VIPER Discussion => Non-Hentai Video Games => Topic started by: Xierfrogs on February 08, 2008, 05:38:56 pm
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I vote Zelda.
She helps link kill Ganon at least 3 times.
What does Peach do? She gets freaking kidnapped every time someone BLINKS.
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I will concur with Zelda. She is far more useful than Peach.
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Yeah but Peach is a successful Pro-am kart racer. Not to mention the multiple tennis, golf, etc. championships she has taken part in and successfully won U_U
Plus if we include SSB... actually if we included SSB I'd have to go with Zelda just 'cuz she pwns so bad in those games. Peach only slightly pwns.
POH-NED
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I'm going to say that I like Peaches' floaty jumps and turnip attacks over Zelda's crossdressing.
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Peach is now an action heroine in her own right after the Paper Mario games and Super Princess Peach. Also given her more womanly figure, incredible athletic prowess, and insane driving ability, there's simply no contest. She wins.
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Peach is now an action heroine in her own right after the Paper Mario games and Super Princess Peach.
Lest ye forget her first playable action role in non-Japanese versions of Super Mario Bros 2. (Has it really been 20 years now!?)
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I choose to ignore that game on the grounds of it being so utterly bizarre and not the REAL SMB2.
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I vote Samus
She can contort herself into a ball....she must fuck like a tiger (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/YunaChouChan/Emoticons/wiggle.gif)
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But is Samus a princess? And if so what is she a princess of?
I will agree that Peach has gotten alot better over the years from her inept days in SMB. Still I've got to go with Zelda on this one, as awesome as Peach has gotten, Zelda tends to be more proactive about her kingdom.
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I'm going to say that I like Peaches' floaty jumps and turnip attacks over Zelda's crossdressing.
Yeah, but nothing's hotter than a chick in drag. Or whatever it's called for female transvestites.
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But is Samus a princess? And if so what is she a princess of?
I will agree that Peach has gotten alot better over the years from her inept days in SMB. Still I've got to go with Zelda on this one, as awesome as Peach has gotten, Zelda tends to be more proactive about her kingdom.
Peach doesn't need to be proactive because she's a princess who knows how to exercise her authority and get people to do it FOR her. She's definitely the better princess.
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Peach doesn't need to be proactive because she's a princess who knows how to exercise her authority and get people to do it FOR her. She's definitely the better princess.
I'ma have to disagree with that. As of Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, peach's "exercising of authority" was limited to "help me Mario" and the like, and trying not to get ogled by a computer.
<Twilight Princess spoiler>
Zelda shoots light arrows from horseback at the king of darkness while being charged by ghosts.
</Spoiler>
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"Help me" is a command, which was obeyed to the letter. Zelda looks at Link and goes "Save the Kingdom" and he goes off playing at the shooting range and helping little girls collect bugs. Peach has the better help, so she wins.
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But is Samus a princess? And if so what is she a princess of?
Princess of "Surprise! its a girl!" wank?
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It counts.
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But is Samus a princess? And if so what is she a princess of?
Technically, she's heir to the Chozo civilization. That must count for something.
But until we see a "Super Princess Zelda" game, I'm going with Peach. Best game on DS. Finds ways to send you items in her letters (SMB3, Galaxy) despite being captive. Has an army of Toads behind her.
Zelda hasn't even been herself lately: she's been masquerading as Tetra or the Twilight Princess of late. No matter which game it is, there's no standing army of Hyrule (just a few castle guards), and she's of no help at all once captured.
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No matter which game it is, there's no standing army of Hyrule (just a few castle guards), and she's of no help at all once captured.
you know, I never thought of that. Why does Hyrule not have an army? You'd think after X many invasions by fell creatures and such that they'd have some sort of conscription deal going on...(not that they'd be able to DO anything about it)
And someone needs to do more upkeep on the roads in Hyrule. WTF is with the giant rocks blocking the way. If they don't want you going that way just make it really difficult to survive. Don't be lazy and cover the damn thing in rocks...
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The men of Hyrule are always massacred so there isn't enough left over to fuel an army or even a civil services engineering corps. thus the poor road conditions.
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The men of Hyrule are always massacred so there isn't enough left over to fuel an army or even a civil services engineering corps. thus the poor road conditions.
O RLY?
Other than your uncle in Link to the Past, and the gravedigger in Ocarina of Time, I can think of no other confirmed deaths of Hylian citizenry, man or woman.*
There's likely deaths all over the place, of course (where do all the guards go when Ganon destroys the castle in Ocarina of Time?) but none confirmed by visual or textual evidence.
Thus far, the only citizens who seem in need of roads are the farmers who take thier wares (usually milk) to town to sell. And we've seen very little blockage of the roads they utilize thus far. (Although the reconstruction of a bridge in Twilight Princess certainly creates a shortcut for them.) The roads that are blocked aren't used by them anyway. Have you considered maybe they were blocked purposely (by the supposed Hylian Civil Engineering Corps no doubt) not to keep you from getting out, but to keep monsters from getting in?
* Discounting everyone in Clock Town and the immediate vicinity who dies if you don't stop Majora before 72 game hours pass. But that's not supposed to happen because Link always resets the clock with the ocarina.
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Have you considered maybe they were blocked purposely (by the supposed Hylian Civil Engineering Corps no doubt) not to keep you from getting out, but to keep monsters from getting in?
I'm not so sure, just because I have yet to see someone (who is not a Goron) capable of moving the rocks that get put there, and I highly doubt the Gorons have the willpower to MOVE* other than rolling down hills onto Link. Thus, I think purposeful rocks is not very likely.
Also, I'm not sure the Gorons have the lifting power. They're strong, but theirs is a mostly destructive strength, not a moving one.
*citation: e.g. twilight princess. "Go get me spring water so I will break this for you".
As messed up as Hyrule is, I vastly prefer it (and it's possibility of being perpetually 5:35 pm, and being covered in floating black squares) to the Mushroom Kingdom:
Bottomless pits, people who LOOK LIKE MUSHROOMS WTF, and the possibility of being attacked by either Bowser (Perpetual abduction fetishes) or Wario (jesus christ he needs to lay off the garlic).
*shiver*
You know what, forget both of them!
Give me the Metroid universe anyday-wait...crap. No. Scratch that. Giant-ass Radioactive Metal Dragon with Homing Missiles. (GARMDHM!)
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They all die before befor ethe games begin. This is evidenced by the fact that th epopulation of all the games is that of a small rural village in the middle of the boondocks, even though at the very least Hyrule castle's surrounding town is supposed to be a bustling metropolis. Obviously the men were all massacred by Ganon and the women were unable to repopulate the world due to lack of men. Therefore the Legend of Zelda games are a perpetual case study in the last moments of a dying civilizations in its final throes against oblivion.
You see Ganondorf isn't a person, he's actually an allegory for all that is evil in man and perpetually fighting against the virtues of civilization, steadily weighing in against the need to establish security and allow for the propagation of the self and in extension the self's society, while at the same time caused by the need to quite greedily protect the self and propagate the self. Shigeru Miyamoto makes the argument that the two forces of the carnal, selfish desire and the virtuous, societal, selfless desire conflict against eachother constantly in normal circumstances and thus when one outweighs the other; as in the beginning of each Zelda game when Ganondorf is undoubtedly in control of the world, civilization is pushed towards the brink of oblivion, and it must react and a unified selfless force must be created; therefore the allegory "Link", to stave off the impending doom of the selfish force "Ganon" and civilization will either recover and light will return to the world until the next timethe balance is upset(you win the game and wait for the next installment) or the selfish force wins out and the world is destroyed(you lose all hearts and don't have anymore faeries in a bottle).
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They all die before befor ethe games begin. This is evidenced by the fact that th epopulation of all the games is that of a small rural village in the middle of the boondocks, even though at the very least Hyrule castle's surrounding town is supposed to be a bustling metropolis. Obviously the men were all massacred by Ganon and the women were unable to repopulate the world due to lack of men. Therefore the Legend of Zelda games are a perpetual case study in the last moments of a dying civilizations in its final throes against oblivion.
You see Ganondorf isn't a person, he's actually an allegory for all that is evil in man and perpetually fighting against the virtues of civilization, steadily weighing in against the need to establish security and allow for the propagation of the self and in extension the self's society, while at the same time caused by the need to quite greedily protect the self and propagate the self. Shigeru Miyamoto makes the argument that the two forces of the carnal, selfish desire and the virtuous, societal, selfless desire conflict against eachother constantly in normal circumstances and thus when one outweighs the other; as in the beginning of each Zelda game when Ganondorf is undoubtedly in control of the world, civilization is pushed towards the brink of oblivion, and it must react and a unified selfless force must be created; therefore the allegory "Link", to stave off the impending doom of the selfish force "Ganon" and civilization will either recover and light will return to the world until the next timethe balance is upset(you win the game and wait for the next installment) or the selfish force wins out and the world is destroyed(you lose all hearts and don't have anymore faeries in a bottle).
Wow that's deep man.
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...civilization will either recover and light will return to the world until the next timethe balance is upset(you win the game and wait for the next installment) or the selfish force wins out and the world is destroyed(you lose all hearts and don't have anymore faeries in a bottle).
Or nature decides to press the ol' Reset button, which occurs at some point after the Ocarina of Time-Majora's Mask era and before the Wind Waker-Phantom Hourglass era via the Great Flood.
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Ocarina of Time-Majora's Mask era
I wonder if Majora's Mask was really nature trying to press the old reset button, but link got in the way of it unintentionally...
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I wonder if Majora's Mask was really nature trying to press the old reset button, but link got in the way of it unintentionally...
But isn't that the job of any hero? To maintain the status quo?
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But isn't that the job of any hero? To maintain the status quo?
but I'm saying that link ended up being the anti hero, because he stopped the reset button from happening.
spoiler alert:
Cala kills Snape
/spoiler
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But isn't that the job of any hero? To maintain the status quo?
Speak for yourself, mortal.
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Zelda has magic and she's a kickass ninja.
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spoiler alert:
Cala kills Snape
/spoiler
NOooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Please use
[spoiler]O_o[/spoiler]
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sawree...
was the "nooing" a result of my misuse of spoiler tags or a result of the actual spoiler?
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sawree...
was the "nooing" a result of my misuse of spoiler tags or a result of the actual spoiler?
Probably a little of both actually. HG isn't up on the current RSR-HP crossover fanfics.
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Better that than the GTS-FF7-Ronald McDonald crossover...
*shudder*
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Peach is far superior to the mere wafe of an elf/trannie that is Zelda. Peach doesn't need to dress as a man to get things done. And about the whole kidnapping thing, Maybe she gets off on it. I mean, really, who wants to just hang around an overweight Italian plumber, at least she gets some adventure when Bower takes her. She wears heels, pink, yet can still deck you with a frying pan, a pointy umbrella, a Toad, or even a turnip (daikon?)
tl;dr Peach ownz
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Yeah, but nothing's hotter than a chick in drag. Or whatever it's called for female transvestites.
"Lesbians"