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Title: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 05, 2008, 01:16:16 am
Well I finally got my hands on the DVD edition of RSR (up at hentaishare), but I'm completely lost and have no idea what to do. So, are there any game saves uploaded anywhere to download, or maybe a little FAQ for the game somewhere?

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, lol.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: dontpanic on February 05, 2008, 02:29:57 am
A hojillion in fact!

here, try this one: http://www.densetsu.com/data/saves/rsr-dvd.reg

this may also work, not sure: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L8X027SU
That second link is in this thread:
http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/forum/index.php?topic=1029.0
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 05, 2008, 03:09:25 am
i just uploaded the Viper RSR manual if u want it

check herehttp://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/forum/index.php?topic=220.msg22781#msg22781 (http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/forum/index.php?topic=220.msg22781#msg22781)

UPDATE!

also available is the walkthrough from back of the artbook, same link above
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 05, 2008, 04:26:59 pm
Thanks guys. I love me some Cala!

It's actually really not that hard to get around, just a bit tedious at the beginning I guess.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Hyperguy on February 05, 2008, 11:10:47 pm
Howdy Echelon.  Did you want me to link to your AnonIB board?
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 06, 2008, 02:56:43 am
Sure! It's a bit sloppy now, kind of wish I could afford an actual site (someday I plan on it, more organization, etc ...). But yeah, whenever people talk about Viper games and the series I tend to always direct them to here. :P

Also, I want to know if it's just me ... but the animations in the game actually seem smoother than the video/gifs. Still haven't gotten too far, I'm at chapter 4 but it seems like Cala is about to get captured here. <3

... Errr, oh no!
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 06, 2008, 03:05:15 am
yeah.. the animations in the game are smoother, because the GIF format is not capable of matching the exact frame changes, as it can only do like 0.1 seconds/frame
im not sure but I think the game itself runs at 15 frames per second
GIF: 0.1sec/frame is 10 Frames per second
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 06, 2008, 03:15:44 am
Interesting the videos don't seem as smooth either, why do you think that is? Just a delay in capturing it or something?
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 06, 2008, 03:29:00 am
i guess it could be the vertical sync is not on, causing it to capture some frames twice, or partially
or could be the person's CPU wasn't fast enough to capture and draw frames at the same time
it could also depend on what the person's FramesPerSecond was while capturing the videos...

it maybe it's a psychological effect..  your used to seeing it a certain way... then all of a sudden you see it in another way.. not sure

until the video can match the frames speed exactly, thats when you'll see the smooth version of it
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: JG on February 06, 2008, 08:46:02 pm
yeah.. the animations in the game are smoother, because the GIF format is not capable of matching the exact frame changes, as it can only do like 0.1 seconds/frame
im not sure but I think the game itself runs at 15 frames per second
GIF: 0.1sec/frame is 10 Frames per second

This is not right at all.

GIF is capable of rendering at up to 100 frames per second*, as the integer recorded in the extension block represents 100ths of a second.  However you can't get that performance out of a home computer.

First, consider that to render any moving image without flicker, you have to render twice as fast.  One frame to the primary drawing buffer, and the next frame to a working buffer (and then swap the buffers on the next refresh.)  So to render at 100 frames per second without flicker, your computer has to do the work of rendering at 200fps.

Second, if you're not up to the 2000 level of Windows yet, your PC's timer resolution is 55 milliseconds.  That's about 18 ticks per second.  Double buffering, that's 9 frames per second.  If the GIF timing demands faster, you get choppiness.  This is the primary reason why GIFs made for older Windows systems aren't set for more than just a few frames per second, 10 max.  (The human mind likes to have about 25fps, and preferably 30fps to consider movement to be fluid.)
Windows 2000 and newer have resolution of 10ms.  Taking double buffering into effect, that's 50fps maximum.
I don't know what the resolution off the top of my head is, but XP Media Center Edition (and I presume Vista) has an even finer resolution: at least 8ms so it can render flickerless DVD video at the preferred 60fps.  Probably a good deal finer than that to allow for some slack.

Lastly, your monitor can't draw that fast either.  Chances are you're running 60 or 70 Hz, which gives you a possible rendering rate without flicker of 30-35 frames per second.

And that doesn't even take into account the implementation or other programs that may be running.  Even though my PC timing suggests I should do better, I've noticed Internet Explorer gets only about 15fps in the best case scenario I can give it (ie, a minimum of other apps competing for processor time).  Animation Shop gets 20fps on decent sized GIFs (640x480)



* This is not entirely true, as an extension block timer value of zero can be interpetted as either a) render as fast as possible, or b) don't render at all.  Most implementations do the former, even though the standard states it should be the latter.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 06, 2008, 09:18:01 pm
sounds alot like interlacing
i know that interlaced video, has to render twice to get the full frame
while progressive video only has to render once

which is why I want to get a 120hz tv
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 07, 2008, 02:45:41 pm
Why was GTS the only one to get an OVA treatment? Of course, it's all way in the past...

IE the world needed more Cala.

I'm gonna go cry now. =[
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: JG on February 07, 2008, 08:01:45 pm
Why was GTS the only one to get an OVA treatment?

In my old age I've learned not to question the Japanese.  They don't often make sense.  Get used to it.

Personally, I think a Magical Gambler OVA would have been spectacular.  It's a more humorous story than the V6/GTS, relates better to real people, and I bet it would fit just right into three thirty minute episodes.  (Which is why others like Rise or Northern Lights wouldn't be as good - they'd probably take more than three episodes to tell properly.)
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 08, 2008, 12:18:14 am
Yeah ... "Only in Japan" as I like to say. :P
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 08, 2008, 02:48:25 pm
I hope this hasn't been asked already, because then I are the feel dumbs.

Is there a way to rip save files out of RSR? (or any other viper game for that matter?)

Not that I have any saves worth sharing, but at some point I hope to.

So is there a way to do that without being all omghaxx?
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 08, 2008, 03:07:22 pm
yeah.. simply open the Windows Registry Editor
START --> Run --> Type in: RegEdit  --> click OK
The Registry Editor should open up, go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SOGNA\RSR  - for the CD version
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SOGNA\RSR-DVD - for the DVD version

select the folder, RSR (or RSR-DVD)

goto File --> Export..  then save
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 08, 2008, 05:11:50 pm
Awesome. 'Tanks a lawt.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 12, 2008, 07:19:15 pm
Easiest game ever?
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Wings012 on February 20, 2008, 04:38:20 am
Its hard as hell to die on some fights though. I wish you could control the actions of the entire party, so I can get them to attempt to flee and botch turns instead of killing the enemy.

I can't seem to die against that bitch jellyfish thing, that supposedly rapes archer girl. Maybe I'll try the game again, and flee every goddamn battle so I'm level piss all.

I wish there was a gallery option or something.

Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 20, 2008, 05:45:44 am
So ... you want to die? Lol.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 20, 2008, 07:09:09 am
Its hard as hell to die on some fights though. I wish you could control the actions of the entire party, so I can get them to attempt to flee and botch turns instead of killing the enemy.

I can't seem to die against that bitch jellyfish thing, that supposedly rapes archer girl. Maybe I'll try the game again, and flee every goddamn battle so I'm level piss all.

I wish there was a gallery option or something.

That damn jellyfish thing was the only one I COULD lose to. Thank god for archer suckage.

YOu have to keep trying until the boss randomly attacks the stupid spearguy who deals all lthe damage. If the boss kills him, its all up.

And there is a gallery. But only for scenes you've unlocked by...seeing...them.

What I wish is that the random fights werent so mind numbing...
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Wings012 on February 20, 2008, 07:32:27 am
I guess the gallery only appears after I've beaten the game.

After a few rounds with the jellyfish, it seems that spear guy is entirely capable of whacking the enemy before it deals enough damage to even down a single character. I definitely need to avoid alot of fights. And then retry and pray.

Which I won't be doing for a while since my mind is so terribly numb from the monotonous gameplay. I wonder if theres a way to modify my save games and lower my character levels.... for the parts that I want to lose at.

Maybe I'll give a crack at it after finding the DVD version or something. The only torrent I could find I think was of a CD version, due to its file size. I think I found the DVD version for download around here.... divided into like more than 10 parts.

Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 20, 2008, 09:41:06 am
I guess the gallery only appears after I've beaten the game.

After a few rounds with the jellyfish, it seems that spear guy is entirely capable of whacking the enemy before it deals enough damage to even down a single character. I definitely need to avoid alot of fights. And then retry and pray.

Which I won't be doing for a while since my mind is so terribly numb from the monotonous gameplay. I wonder if theres a way to modify my save games and lower my character levels.... for the parts that I want to lose at.

Maybe I'll give a crack at it after finding the DVD version or something. The only torrent I could find I think was of a CD version, due to its file size. I think I found the DVD version for download around here.... divided into like more than 10 parts.

I has a dvd version, it is a torrent. Later on today I post link to torrent.

It has seeds.

The file I got beaten by jellyfish by was a save I got offline, I couldn't advance the plot on my own, because at that point your walkthrough wasn't working
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: 黒い灯影 on February 20, 2008, 06:37:17 pm
you know there are some cheats in Viper RSR

I dont know if there is cheats for the CD versions, but I tested these on the DVD version


VIPER RSR CHEATS

No Battles:
Just hold SHIFT while walking around the map. You shouldn't be able to fight any enemies
except for those scripted battles.

Fast Forward Dialogue:
Hold CTRL to skip to the dialogue, if there is camera movement, i dont think it skips

Auto-Walk:
Hold CTRL while walking around on the map, good for those long walks

Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 20, 2008, 07:31:31 pm
you know there are some cheats in Viper RSR

I dont know if there is cheats for the CD versions, but I tested these on the DVD version


VIPER RSR CHEATS

No Battles:
Just hold SHIFT while walking around the map. You shouldn't be able to fight any enemies
except for those scripted battles.

Fast Forward Dialogue:
Hold CTRL to skip to the dialogue, if there is camera movement, i dont think it skips

Auto-Walk:
Hold CTRL while walking around on the map, good for those long walks


OMFG THANKYOUTHANKYOU *kowtow*

stupid random sucky monsters... -_-
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Echelon on February 21, 2008, 02:00:39 am
Are there any major differences between the CD and DVD versions? Pretty sure I got the DVD version, from hentaishare.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Hyperguy on February 21, 2008, 02:21:59 am
There's extra scenes in the DVD version that don't appear in the CD version.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Wings012 on February 21, 2008, 02:28:43 am
I has a dvd version, it is a torrent. Later on today I post link to torrent.

It has seeds.

The file I got beaten by jellyfish by was a save I got offline, I couldn't advance the plot on my own, because at that point your walkthrough wasn't working

So where is this torrent? Although I'm leaving in two days for studying abroad in a place where torrenting isn't quite possible, and counting on the crappy speed of my home internet... it won't finish. So blah, nevermind.

At any rate, those cheats are quite genius. It would help me lose those pesky boss fights. And save a lot of time here and there too.
Title: Re: RSR saves or FAQ's anywhere?
Post by: Xierfrogs on February 21, 2008, 03:40:08 pm
So where is this torrent? Although I'm leaving in two days for studying abroad in a place where torrenting isn't quite possible, and counting on the crappy speed of my home internet... it won't finish. So blah, nevermind.

At any rate, those cheats are quite genius. It would help me lose those pesky boss fights. And save a lot of time here and there too.


Yeah yeah...I'll get to it.

You could always search www.torrents.to for Viper RSR...