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Title: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Yoko Matsugane Lover on February 15, 2007, 01:08:09 am
Lets be honest,i feel that the Japanese are better in every way
They make the best movies,best games,always ahead of us in Technology i mean how could we ever beat them.

Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: LordRyunson on February 15, 2007, 02:26:31 am
We just have the ideas.

They perfect them.

That's my two cents right there.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Yoko Matsugane Lover on February 15, 2007, 02:39:32 am
We just have the ideas.

They perfect them.

That's my two cents right there.
Aint it true
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on February 15, 2007, 02:57:33 am
They're MUCH more perverse, if anything.  But then again, if not for that, the many forms of bakunyuu hentai probably wouldn't be around...

I'm sure there will be polarizing opinions on this statement.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: EnsignRyusei on February 15, 2007, 03:13:56 am
Well, they invented the SR-genre with old-school Mazinger Z, so i cant say i dont love em

Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on February 15, 2007, 03:19:39 am
Well, they invented the SR-genre with old-school Mazinger Z, so i cant say i dont love em

Well, of course!  They've given us video games, anime, new technology, and a lot of their women are sexy too.  I'd love to be able to go to Japan sometime... it'd be a helluva lot better than Arkansas, lol...
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on February 15, 2007, 12:41:36 pm
Japan is FUCKED THE HELL UP. We will never match their bizarre perversity and willingness to exploit themselves for 5 seconds of fame, and because of that, I have full confidence that America is in fact better than Japan. Plus, we have Comedy Central.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: R-9 on February 15, 2007, 05:18:35 pm
Okay, this is where I draw the line. Anime, all right. Hentai, go for it, but cultural inferiority complex? Get over yourself.

Problems:

1. Japan has one of the highest rates of teen suicide in the industrialized world due to the tremendous social and academic pressures involved in the Japanese school system. Corporal punishment was outlawed only recently due to its almost arbitrary level of application. There are rising cases of kids simply going into their rooms and not coming out.

2. You think appearances mean a lot over here? Japan has us fucked on that regard. The number of social rituals required in daily interaction are staggering, and god help you if you mess up.

3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.

4. The social stratification and entrenchment of gender roles has required monumental efforts to even budge, and even now politicans are still getting away with saying things like "women are birth-giving machines"* without substantial criticism from their colleagues in office.

I'm sure there's mure, but I'll put them up as I find them.

*Hakuo Yanagisawa, Minister of Welfare.

Plus, we made Exo-Squad. And: Robotech is better than Macross.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: LordRyunson on February 15, 2007, 08:58:16 pm
Okay, this is where I draw the line. Anime, all right. Hentai, go for it, but cultural inferiority complex? Get over yourself.

Problems:

1. Japan has one of the highest rates of teen suicide in the industrialized world due to the tremendous social and academic pressures involved in the Japanese school system. Corporal punishment was outlawed only recently due to its almost arbitrary level of application. There are rising cases of kids simply going into their rooms and not coming out.

2. You think appearances mean a lot over here? Japan has us fucked on that regard. The number of social rituals required in daily interaction are staggering, and god help you if you mess up.

3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.

4. The social stratification and entrenchment of gender roles has required monumental efforts to even budge, and even now politicans are still getting away with saying things like "women are birth-giving machines"* without substantial criticism from their colleagues in office.

I'm sure there's mure, but I'll put them up as I find them.

*Hakuo Yanagisawa, Minister of Welfare.

Plus, we made Exo-Squad. And: Robotech is better than Macross.

Well, I recently watched an anime known as Girls Bravo... The main character, Yukinari, is picked on girls so much that he developed an allergic reaction to their slightest touch.

Even his best friend, Kiriae or whoever her name is, picks on him for being an accidental peeping tom. Yukinari is then transported through a bath tub and meets a cute girl named Miharu in another world, in which his allergic reaction doesn't activate when Miharu touches him.

I wonder if animes like this is inspired by the darker side of Japanese culture....

Oh, and Exo Squad? That cartoon was well done, but for reasons unknown, didn't last too long. Either that, or I missed a few episodes.....
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: R-9 on February 15, 2007, 09:30:43 pm
I wonder if animes like this is inspired by the darker side of Japanese culture....

Oh, and Exo Squad? That cartoon was well done, but for reasons unknown, didn't last too long. Either that, or I missed a few episodes.....

On the first part, there's no doubt about that. Even in Sailor Moon there are a few throw awaylines about the crushing pressures of Japanese education that were cut from the American release.

On the second, I found a place where you could DL all of the episodes of Exo-Squad, but I'll put it in the appropriate forum.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: tetsaru arigashi on February 15, 2007, 09:48:47 pm
Okay, this is where I draw the line. Anime, all right. Hentai, go for it, but cultural inferiority complex? Get over yourself.

Problems:

1. Japan has one of the highest rates of teen suicide in the industrialized world due to the tremendous social and academic pressures involved in the Japanese school system. Corporal punishment was outlawed only recently due to its almost arbitrary level of application. There are rising cases of kids simply going into their rooms and not coming out.

2. You think appearances mean a lot over here? Japan has us fucked on that regard. The number of social rituals required in daily interaction are staggering, and god help you if you mess up.

3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.

4. The social stratification and entrenchment of gender roles has required monumental efforts to even budge, and even now politicans are still getting away with saying things like "women are birth-giving machines"* without substantial criticism from their colleagues in office.

I'm sure there's mure, but I'll put them up as I find them.

*Hakuo Yanagisawa, Minister of Welfare.

Plus, we made Exo-Squad. And: Robotech is better than Macross.


I saw mention of the Japanese people having identity crises and gender role issues in a book about anime I read not too long ago.  You ever noticed how most anime characters (not all, but a good deal of them) tend to look similar?  It also explains how they don't always seem to belong to any particular race (for example, in Evangelion, Shinji is supposedly Japanese, while Asuka is supposed to be German; however, there's no significant difference in appearance between them), the use of unnatural hair and eye colors, exaggerated body proportions (tall and lanky, huge eyes, etc.), and male dominance in a lot of hentai (although in some anime - Love Hina, for example - this trend is opposite, with the male, usually a young boy, being oppressed by a usually older and more dominant female character).  Very intriguing...
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: HMD on February 15, 2007, 09:55:52 pm
I feel my blood boiling, so, for this boards' sake, I won't make any posts in this thread after this one. I just have one question: which one of you is Recap?
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Yoko Matsugane Lover on February 15, 2007, 11:58:10 pm
Okay, this is where I draw the line. Anime, all right. Hentai, go for it, but cultural inferiority complex? Get over yourself.

Problems:

1. Japan has one of the highest rates of teen suicide in the industrialized world due to the tremendous social and academic pressures involved in the Japanese school system. Corporal punishment was outlawed only recently due to its almost arbitrary level of application. There are rising cases of kids simply going into their rooms and not coming out.

2. You think appearances mean a lot over here? Japan has us fucked on that regard. The number of social rituals required in daily interaction are staggering, and god help you if you mess up.

3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.

4. The social stratification and entrenchment of gender roles has required monumental efforts to even budge, and even now politicans are still getting away with saying things like "women are birth-giving machines"* without substantial criticism from their colleagues in office.

I'm sure there's mure, but I'll put them up as I find them.

*Hakuo Yanagisawa, Minister of Welfare.

Plus, we made Exo-Squad. And: Robotech is better than Macross.

Whoa,didnt knoe it would be so serious,i was just talkin about the basics,like games and movies.Not the suicide rate and apperance and what ever else you said.
Didnt mean to offend you there.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on February 16, 2007, 09:35:54 am
Okay, this is where I draw the line. Anime, all right. Hentai, go for it, but cultural inferiority complex? Get over yourself.

Problems:

1. Japan has one of the highest rates of teen suicide in the industrialized world due to the tremendous social and academic pressures involved in the Japanese school system. Corporal punishment was outlawed only recently due to its almost arbitrary level of application. There are rising cases of kids simply going into their rooms and not coming out.


Which is fucked the hell up.

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2. You think appearances mean a lot over here? Japan has us fucked on that regard. The number of social rituals required in daily interaction are staggering, and god help you if you mess up.
Which, again, is fucked the hell up.

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3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.
FTHU (I'm sure you know what it means).

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4. The social stratification and entrenchment of gender roles has required monumental efforts to even budge, and even now politicans are still getting away with saying things like "women are birth-giving machines"* without substantial criticism from their colleagues in office.
Do I have to write it out again? Seriously, this is a whole new level of fucked up that I wasn't even aware of. All my experiences with "Japan is fucked up" comes from seeing clips of their television shows, their commercials, and some of the absolutely bizarre porn they animate or put their porn stars through.

Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: R-9 on February 16, 2007, 10:17:11 am
Well, You know, the West has its own problems (The USA has lower social mobility than England of all places, the UK has the worst rich/poor disparity in the industrialized world, France's birthrate has been fucked since WWI, etc.), but I just feel the need to burst anyone's bubble when they say a particular culture is "superior". I'd go after anyone who said that France/Belgium/Russia/Egypt/Whatever is better than whoever else.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Doctor_Raven on February 16, 2007, 12:48:01 pm
The other thing to consider is that for some time all the anime and manga licensed to the US and on the fansub circles have been pretty much the creme of the crop.  This created an illusion of superiority that thankfully is being shattered as more and more anime and manga are being seen in fansub and licensed by companies.

Japan does good stuff.  But then again some of their "great acheivements" in certain genres have also had international influences.  Take Super Sentai series for example, it wasn't until Toei's Spiderman and the involvement of Marvel that brought transforming robots into the genre.  In fact, Battle Fever J was originally going to be a Japanified version of Captain America.  And anime itself has inspiration from Disney.  Also there is Transformers, while yes Hasbro got the toys from Takara and Japan it was America that created the grandoise story line of an intergalactic war between transforming robots.  Japan took this back and effectively crashed it into the ground whereas a nice nostalgia buffer arose in the US.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: boshy on February 16, 2007, 08:23:03 pm
for that is that the japanese society is one of the most unhappy of the world
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hyperguy on February 17, 2007, 01:07:48 pm
The other thing to consider is that for some time all the anime and manga licensed to the US and on the fansub circles have been pretty much the creme of the crop.  This created an illusion of superiority that thankfully is being shattered as more and more anime and manga are being seen in fansub and licensed by companies.
I couldn't have said it better myself.  Just walk into any manga bookstore or open up any offbrand manga phonebook and it's not hard to find droves and droves of mindless, ugly, and crappy manga.  A lot of crappy anime doesn't see release in the U.S. either, which I think is an advantage to living on this side of the pond.  The majority of the horrible, time killing content has been filtered out, and thankfully, died off and stayed in Japan where it should have.  There's no sense in importing 10 lbs of monkey crap.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: bfg00 on February 17, 2007, 02:39:54 pm
True that.  Capitalism is useful for filtering out bad products on occassion.

As with most impressions/apperances its all in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Mirai Doft on February 17, 2007, 09:16:27 pm
3. The crushing social pressures both in school and in daily adult life would be enough, but it has become so bad that a large number of men are simply put off approaching women for marriage, meaning that the population in the country is in a decline. It has gotten so bad that the Japanese government is offering bounties to women who have children.

Are you sure? I thought Japan was troubled with overpopulation...

Because of those problens they created Yatta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rWFZesV8s)
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Doctor_Raven on February 17, 2007, 10:42:36 pm
There's no sense in importing 10 lbs of monkey crap.

Yes but one can always point out and enjoy QUAILITY.

*aims a gun that fires a laser with an odd grin*
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on February 18, 2007, 01:52:54 am
And: Robotech is better than Macross.

Oh, it is so fucking on, man.

*I actually agree with a lot of your points; but that last remark was just low.

Though ExoSquad did fucking rule.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: JG on February 18, 2007, 08:06:44 am
Because of those problens they created Yatta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rWFZesV8s)

This scares me. The strange man who visits the Piyo Piyo flower shop in VIPER-M1's Green Boy is a member of the "Green Leaves"
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on February 18, 2007, 04:19:08 pm
Are you sure? I thought Japan was troubled with overpopulation...

Because of those problens they created Yatta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rWFZesV8s)
Yatta was created as a counter/parody/satire of J-Pop music. It both succeeded wonderfully and failed miserably as the Japanese people, ignorant to the intended purpose of the group, loved it and more or less forced them to go on tour. Each concert was 2 hours of that same song, and all the lil crazy Japs loved it. The end.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: bfg00 on February 19, 2007, 09:04:30 pm
Yatta was created as a counter/parody/satire of J-Pop music. It both succeeded wonderfully and failed miserably as the Japanese people, ignorant to the intended purpose of the group, loved it and more or less forced them to go on tour. Each concert was 2 hours of that same song, and all the lil crazy Japs loved it. The end.

That's even funnier.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on February 19, 2007, 09:36:57 pm
Here's some more trivia for you. All 5 members of the Leaf Team are accomplished and respected musicians and singers in other genres of music.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hyperguy on February 19, 2007, 11:37:51 pm
So uh, we've got lots of space in America.  Isn't that an advantage Japan doesn't have?

America's pretty fricken' sweet if you sit down and think about it.

i mean how could we ever beat them.
WITH LASERS
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: bfg00 on February 20, 2007, 04:53:47 pm
So uh, we've got lots of space in America.  Isn't that an advantage Japan doesn't have?

America's pretty fricken' sweet if you sit down and think about it.

Well Japan does have a space program but they piggy back off the Russian and American launch systems to get astronauts up.

I will concur America is pretty awesome.
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Post by: XheroX on February 20, 2007, 11:31:09 pm
Well, You know, the West has its own problems (The USA has lower social mobility than England of all places, the UK has the worst rich/poor disparity in the industrialized world, France's birthrate has been fucked since WWI, etc.), but I just feel the need to burst anyone's bubble when they say a particular culture is "superior". I'd go after anyone who said that France/Belgium/Russia/Egypt/Whatever is better than whoever else.

I agree with you on that part. I hate when any country has to attack another thinking that they may be better in anyway. Becuase the whole world has their fair share of problems. Which is why I love america as much as I hate it. We have a great country IMO but sadly have idiots who get a little TOO proud and represent us in the wrong ways, and make us look like bad guys.

on the japan note. I admit that they have some good shit in the creative department that I get envious of. But I wouldnt trade for it if it meant living their lives. I was aware of their rediculous social standards (although not as informed as I was till reading that post). But you cant let the bad blind you from the good. My brother lived their for 2 years and married a japanese woman. (and he was born and raised in PA =P ) and hes always going in and out. and yes he told me of the same problems you did but says for the most part they are nice people and it can be a very beutiful and happening place.

but yeah all countries have their problems and to say any country is better than another is just B.S.  Sure you say that they are better in movies and animes and story telling and art. But thats not to say Americans arent capable of the same things. America has some awsome movies and stories. You just have to learn to cut through all the crud to find the real good stuff.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Doctor_Raven on February 21, 2007, 12:48:59 am
(http://www.geekfag.com/images/409777464episode.jpg)

Adam:  Welll Jamie, the myth that Japan is better than us - plausible, confirmed or busted?

Jamie:  Busted, definately. I mean every country has their good and bad points.  nobody is really better than the other.

BUSTED
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Ellendesu on February 21, 2007, 09:53:09 am
Lets be honest,i feel that the Japanese are better in every way
They make the best movies,best games,always ahead of us in Technology i mean how could we ever beat them.



(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/hyperwill/1161575578812.jpg)

Sorry, I've been silent this whole time, I needed to do something.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on February 21, 2007, 10:57:56 pm
I'll end the discussion right here:


The Japanese are better than us.  True.


Reason:  Because I said so.
Now everybody sit down and drink a nice warm cup of STFU and post to something with a slightly lower emo-factor.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hyperguy on February 25, 2007, 01:15:36 pm
BANGU DORRU! WINS!

FORUMTALITY
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hee Seop Choi Riding in the Back of an Ambulance on March 02, 2007, 02:32:27 am
I feel my blood boiling, so, for this boards' sake, I won't make any posts in this thread after this one.

America's pretty fricken' sweet if you sit down and think about it.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Aphelion on March 02, 2007, 11:20:22 am
The Japanese are better than us.  True.
But we still have more nukes!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: santiO on March 02, 2007, 09:31:23 pm
I'd like, if I may, to take this discussion to a whole new level, one that has defined human civilizations for countless millenia.
.
.
But since I don't remember what that level was, let's just talk about horror movies.
A decaying filthy little bitch coming out of a fucking well? THAT you call fucking scary?!
I mean, on one side of the Pacific we have that, and on the other one, we have JASON, FREDDY, MICHAEL MYERS. Fuck, we have LEATHERFACE who isn't even a ghost or supernatural at all, he's a human being, but he could kick all those Sadako asses in less than a second!
And let's not forget about the other side of the spectrum. ASH. Oh, yeah. ASH, from Evil Dead and Army of Darkness. How much would Sadako last on a one on one fight with ASH and his chainsaw-and-boomstick combo?
Enough not-emo for you, people?
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Ellendesu on March 02, 2007, 09:35:50 pm
lol Ash would own everyone from a Japanese horror movie except maybe...no he'd own.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Doctor_Raven on March 03, 2007, 12:45:35 am
Army of Darkness was called Kyaputien supamaketto: Shiryo no harawata III in Japan.

Apparently they think he is merely a supermarket guy :/

Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Mirai Doft on March 03, 2007, 02:51:23 pm
I think that supernatural horror movies, with ghosts etc, are way scarier than "I'm ugly and i have a chainsaw" movies. Jason = Shit. I've watched some of his movies and they are all fucking stupid. Jason X made me laugh instead of feel scared. And those movies with zombies are equally bad, they are more action movies than horror.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: bfg00 on March 03, 2007, 03:06:32 pm
Army of Darkness was called Kyaputien supamaketto: Shiryo no harawata III in Japan.

Apparently they think he is merely a supermarket guy :/



Little do they know, little do they know.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: santiO on March 06, 2007, 04:35:12 pm
He's not only a supermarket guy! He's... THE ONE!!

I think that supernatural horror movies, with ghosts etc, are way scarier than "I'm ugly and i have a chainsaw" movies. Jason = Shit. I've watched some of his movies and they are all fucking stupid. Jason X made me laugh instead of feel scared. And those movies with zombies are equally bad, they are more action movies than horror.

But you see here, that's why I think that Leatherface is awesome. He's not a ghost, he's a human being. And what does that show us? That evil, true evil, lives not only on ghosts and supernatural ding-dong, it can also live inside a "normal" human, one who could be sitting... right... next... to ya.
It's kinda like "The Shining": Here we have a guy with an axe running around a hotel and smashing doors. He doesn't have ten eyes, he doesn't have four arms, he isn't slowly decaying. He's just a crazy mutha with an axe. Then why is it that every time I see it it scares the living shit out of me? Because I think "Hey, this guy's human. If he lost it, everyone can lose it!".
And yes, Jason X sucked the big one. Uber-Jason... what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I'd rather go see a movie called "Terminator vs The Evil Hitler Robots" or something like that. At least that wouldn't try to take itself seriously!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on March 06, 2007, 08:28:25 pm
I remember that movie Ichi the Killer.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: HMD on March 09, 2007, 05:06:16 pm
you guys forgot that they're better than us at music (http://www.talkingarm.com/music/Maher_DifferentDaylight_16.mp3), too.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Cashino on March 09, 2007, 06:00:36 pm
you guys forgot that they're better than us at music (http://www.talkingarm.com/music/Maher_DifferentDaylight_16.mp3), too.

ESPECIALLY for games. Got no clue on any other game composer other than Jeremy Soule.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: santiO on March 09, 2007, 06:42:08 pm
You're forgetting about Michael Giacchino, the sonuvabitch who did the music for Medal of Honor and Call of Duty.
Hey, USA beats Japan at FPS!! Score one more and thank Duke Nukem!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: JG on March 09, 2007, 09:20:36 pm
You're forgetting about Michael Giacchino, the sonuvabitch who did the music for Medal of Honor and Call of Duty.
Hey, USA beats Japan at FPS!! Score one more and thank Duke Nukem!

You go make a point, and then bring up Duke Nukem, who, at last check, is now in his tenth year of development on Duke Nukem Fourever.

It doesn't take 10 years for the Japanese to make one damn game.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: santiO on March 11, 2007, 11:29:25 am
I was talkin' 'bout Duke Nukem 3D, which is celebrating its 10-and-something birthday, and it still kicks so much ass! No, literally, it KICKS ASS! I mean, how many games do you know that have your FOOT, nay, your MIGHTY FOOT, available as a weapons, let alone a japanese game! And let's not even go to the DEVASTATOR and its awesome (In every sense of the word) power!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: XheroX on March 12, 2007, 12:00:04 am
I LOVE Marty O'Donnell's work for the halo series. Some of the best video game music I EVER heard. Thats stricly of course opinionated. I hope some peopl can agree with me on this...
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Ellendesu on March 12, 2007, 12:01:59 am
I was talkin' 'bout Duke Nukem 3D, which is celebrating its 10-and-something birthday, and it still kicks so much ass! No, literally, it KICKS ASS! I mean, how many games do you know that have your FOOT, nay, your MIGHTY FOOT, available as a weapons, let alone a japanese game! And let's not even go to the DEVASTATOR and its awesome (In every sense of the word) power!

Return to Castle Wolfenstein allowed you to kick!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on March 12, 2007, 12:18:08 am
Megaman Legends! =D
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hyperguy on March 12, 2007, 12:46:34 am
http://www.mangascreener.com/magazine/index.php?id=11
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on March 12, 2007, 01:13:09 am
OMG Hyperguy posted truth!
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Doctor_Raven on March 12, 2007, 01:15:22 am
Kamen Rider has a mighty foot.... and is shown in video games based on the series.  Still its not first person :o
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on March 12, 2007, 04:24:19 pm
I LOVE Marty O'Donnell's work for the halo series. Some of the best video game music I EVER heard. Thats stricly of course opinionated. I hope some peopl can agree with me on this...

I don't.  But then again, somebody brought up Jeremy Soule and that's all I needed to hear.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: bfg00 on March 12, 2007, 04:57:44 pm
I will agree that Jeremy Soule and Marty O'Donnell have some fantasitic soundtracks that they have put out.

As for the article, I agree with ROMate it is the truth.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: XheroX on March 12, 2007, 05:58:14 pm
http://www.mangascreener.com/magazine/index.php?id=11

I agreed with alot of that! but at the same time was scared by it =P I know Fanboyism can blind ya from reality. but he didnt really draw a line. He kinda made me feel any of slightest fandom is bad. I admit I Bought anime stuff Like statues to display on my desktop. But then again I also have statues of the gorillaz (from U.K.) master chief (an american based character) and other non Japanese items. But that article made me feel bad just having the little I do have =/

I guess I would classify myself as one of the "respectable loser" though. Because I have boughten things and can admit what crap they are when I get them. Infact as said earlier theres actualy ALOT more crap than good when it comes to animes, but man some people just cant admit it. and thats why im never to open about the little fanboyism I do have. I dont wanna be classified with those guys because thats the stereotype nowadays.

Which brings the question, is there a line of good and bad Fanboyism. and is fanboyism even a word?
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Cashino on March 12, 2007, 06:24:56 pm
http://www.mangascreener.com/magazine/index.php?id=11

Heh...I generally stay away from anything with lyrics in the first place, since most of it grates my ears (pretty much the only thing that has lyrics that I listen to are arias from operas and stuff like that, mostly to help soothe my mind when I'm under a lot of stress).

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Which brings the question, is there a line of good and bad Fanboyism.

In my book, only when you buy more than two or more times the amount in little extras (like figures, posters, etc.) than you spend on the actual anime DVD's and games.
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Post by: Doctor_Raven on March 13, 2007, 12:17:12 am
Which brings the question, is there a line of good and bad Fanboyism. and is fanboyism even a word?

You could say there is a fine line between the two states. A good sign of crossing that line is when you begin to demand entitlement rights and accusing the creators of not knowinf the right way a character should act, and that the relationships are all wrong. Another sign is when you demand VAs both east and west to act out your secret slashfic.
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Post by: DualSoul on March 13, 2007, 03:52:39 am
I happen to like JPOP...
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Post by: ROMate on March 13, 2007, 09:40:19 am
FREAK.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Ellendesu on March 13, 2007, 09:53:31 am
I'm very picky with my JPop. And I only own TWO Megumi Hayashibara CDs! SO HAHA!

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Post by: bfg00 on March 13, 2007, 08:03:07 pm
I think the line between fan and fanboy is when you cross from enjoying the art to obsessing over it.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Hyperguy on March 21, 2007, 01:19:27 pm
I agreed with alot of that! but at the same time was scared by it =P I know Fanboyism can blind ya from reality. but he didnt really draw a line. He kinda made me feel any of slightest fandom is bad. I admit I Bought anime stuff Like statues to display on my desktop. But then again I also have statues of the gorillaz (from U.K.) master chief (an american based character) and other non Japanese items. But that article made me feel bad just having the little I do have =/

Which brings the question, is there a line of good and bad Fanboyism. and is fanboyism even a word?
I think the gist of it isn't that the slightest fandom as bad so much as irrationality caused by fandom is.

Like the example he made about how if Japanese people cut off their right hand and got hooks how there'd be a line of fanboys with bandaged stumps waiting in line to get a hook.

Well, believe it or not, blind irrationality like that exists among fans today, and blind irrationality is a very bad thing, because it makes people do bad things to themselves that they wouldn't do otherwise.

Like for example, subject themselves to J-Pop without considering whether they honestly like it or not.  Or talking in Japanese to non-Japanese speaking people without considering that not only will they not understand them, but that it's rude.

Or, my favorite example has got to be...

When grown men wear Hello Kitty T-Shirts.

I mean honestly people, unless you were homosexual, unusual, or creator of the series, you wouldn't wear a T-Shirt with a picture of Rainbow Brite, Barbie, or My Little Pony on it, would you?  It's an unstated fact that in the world of man, you get beaten up, berated, or disrespected for wearing something so girly.  So why would you wear a Hello Kitty T-Shirt, which for the most part is a girl's cartoon character, notwithstanding its place of origin?  That's irrationality in action, and I know I've seen men older than 30 years of age wearing them solely because it's Japanese.

I guess the big picture here is that if you want to be a fan of the anime, at least be a fan of the anime in a healthy fashion, and not one that has you doing demeaning things to yourself in an effort to look cool or be more accepted by irrationally thinking anime fans.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: Ellendesu on March 21, 2007, 01:34:50 pm
Actually, all of the people I know who wear Hello Kitty T Shirts are gay.

Every single one of them.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on March 24, 2007, 08:05:00 pm
You could say there is a fine line between the two states. A good sign of crossing that line is when you begin to demand entitlement rights and accusing the creators of not knowinf the right way a character should act, and that the relationships are all wrong.

But what if they are wrong?  YEAH, WHAT THEN!?
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: YunaChou on March 24, 2007, 09:11:26 pm
Japan is FUCKED THE HELL UP. We will never match their bizarre perversity and willingness to exploit themselves for 5 seconds of fame

Like dis?

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/YunaChouChan/1161187971672.jpg)
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Post by: Doctor_Raven on March 24, 2007, 09:37:12 pm
Japan inferior, Soundwave SUPERIOR.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: ROMate on March 24, 2007, 10:29:03 pm
Like dis?

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/YunaChouChan/1161187971672.jpg)
BINGO.
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on March 25, 2007, 01:15:23 am
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/YunaChouChan/1161187971672.jpg)

The image speaks truth... only the veritable and mighty mightiness of Jeremy Soule can match such utter, profound truth.
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Post by: Hyperguy on March 28, 2007, 04:40:06 pm
hxxp://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/ohayocon-2007-disappointment.php
Title: Re: The Japanese Are Better Then Us..............Its true
Post by: MMX on March 31, 2007, 05:32:03 pm
My browser can't handle this hxx protocol.  I've seen it all over the internets, but for some weird reason, I can't find the plugin ANYWHERE.
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Post by: DualSoul on March 31, 2007, 07:34:11 pm
hxxp://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/ohayocon-2007-disappointment.php

The elitism is practically dripping.
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Post by: Cashino on April 01, 2007, 04:40:44 pm

Or, my favorite example has got to be...

When grown men wear Hello Kitty T-Shirts.

I mean honestly people, unless you were homosexual, unusual, or creator of the series, you wouldn't wear a T-Shirt with a picture of Rainbow Brite, Barbie, or My Little Pony on it, would you?  It's an unstated fact that in the world of man, you get beaten up, berated, or disrespected for wearing something so girly.  So why would you wear a Hello Kitty T-Shirt, which for the most part is a girl's cartoon character, notwithstanding its place of origin?  That's irrationality in action, and I know I've seen men older than 30 years of age wearing them solely because it's Japanese.

I guess the big picture here is that if you want to be a fan of the anime, at least be a fan of the anime in a healthy fashion, and not one that has you doing demeaning things to yourself in an effort to look cool or be more accepted by irrationally thinking anime fans.


My example: sending death threats to the creator of an anime cause you think the series's ending sucked.

I mean...really...

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