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Title: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on April 16, 2012, 12:01:20 am
Wasn't sure which thread to add this to so I'm making a new one. I may add other pics I uncensor if they come out this well.

I had posted some other stuff in Carrerachan, but I don't think it was anything notable.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on April 17, 2012, 04:58:41 pm
Neato
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on April 23, 2012, 06:33:34 pm
nice job, Rai!
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on April 20, 2013, 06:12:36 am
Something i've been working on
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Asukachan on April 20, 2013, 08:16:33 pm
great stuff!
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on April 21, 2013, 09:00:44 am
Thanks, worked on it a little more.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: hedonean on September 09, 2013, 02:49:02 am
Is the intention to drop these animations back into the game somehow?
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on September 09, 2013, 06:27:01 am
that's what I'm planning to do with my work
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: hedonean on September 10, 2013, 12:20:49 am
Nice.
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Post by: applebread on October 24, 2013, 03:25:29 pm
made by myself
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on October 24, 2013, 10:19:53 pm
YOWZA! This is really professional-looking! Can i ask how long did each one take?

Sure beats the sloppily photoshopped Miki porn we got back on Carrerachan (er, no offence to whomever did those).
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: BremenDruid on January 01, 2015, 12:27:09 pm
Here's a little something that I've been working on. Trying to uncensor and add a little bit of details to Miki's rape scene.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on January 01, 2015, 05:50:38 pm
nice job with it
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Saika on July 02, 2015, 02:52:50 am
yeah, nice!
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: WishingStar on September 20, 2015, 09:41:39 pm
Just got a new tablet and wanted to see if I can be of help here.  I need feedback, obviously and could probably do with animating his balls a little as her hand slaps down
Title: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: toytoytoytoy on September 21, 2015, 06:45:07 am
 :) Great stuff here, I wanna show my work, too.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: WishingStar on September 29, 2015, 09:26:39 pm
Although the images are saved in 256 colours - I've found its best if you reset each frame in GIMP\whatever you're using - back into 32-bit colour, do your edit and then set it back to 256 when you save as a GIF.

It'll let you use some transparency shading effects (like how the linework very slightly bleeds into the colour) and since you're converting back anyway - any image editor worth its salt will automatically readjust.

Also - I'll post up some more animation later this week.  I've had college, so I've been slack.  I want to *try* and de-censor the whole of GTS
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Wagonman12 on May 12, 2017, 07:41:54 am
You peop,e are doing gods work
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: ShootGunner on May 14, 2017, 06:35:32 pm
Quote from: toytoytoytoy on September 21, 2015, 06:45:07 am
:) Great stuff here, I wanna show my work, too.

This is great man. Now if only we could get the next two scenes after that uncensored.... hoo doggy.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on May 15, 2017, 07:49:05 pm
After which? There's a lot there to jump off from.

I'd like to try editing some gifs again. Some ideas where to start would be nice.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on May 18, 2017, 02:31:40 am
That is some truly impressive editing.

Please do some decensoring on Viper M1, Rai. Specifically the girl that looks like Ranma ;D

(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/7cbc7c6f94d01a082963a4bda967003e6g.jpg?size_id=5)





Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on May 18, 2017, 06:47:39 pm
As it just so happens, I did some Mayworks decensoring 7 years ago.

For some reason I also thought the suraimu scene would be improved by removing the googly eyes...

And uh ... not sure how much Maki you were hoping for, but that's pretty much the only image of her that involves any censorship to begin with. There's a tiny amount in M1D24, but there's not much point since it looks like all the interesting bits are out of frame.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: BremenDruid on May 18, 2017, 08:57:51 pm
Nice! I was always interested with the blob creature. I've never played that VIPER game.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: ShootGunner on May 23, 2017, 12:16:11 am
Quote from: Rai on May 15, 2017, 07:49:05 pm
After which? There's a lot there to jump off from.

I'd like to try editing some gifs again. Some ideas where to start would be nice.


The scenes when the blue orc beast pulls his dick out and the scene where the cum is spewing from Cala's pussy.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on May 23, 2017, 08:21:10 pm
Ah, yeah, good choice. Also intimidating to decensor though. Just how destroyed should it look?

黒い灯影 showed a WIP of ANM 522 back in 2007 that looked pretty good. Link seems to be broken now, but I saved it.

Ten years is probably long enough to wait for that to be finished. Maybe I'll take a crack at it.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on May 24, 2017, 12:02:03 am
Quote from: Rai on May 23, 2017, 08:21:10 pm
Ah, yeah, good choice. Also intimidating to decensor though. Just how destroyed should it look?

黒い灯影 showed a WIP of ANM 522 back in 2007 that looked pretty good. Link seems to be broken now, but I saved it.

Ten years is probably long enough to wait for that to be finished. Maybe I'll take a crack at it.

Wow, i haven't seen that in a long time, unfortunately, I lost the original photoshop files in a harddrive crash. :(
looking back at it, I could probably do a better one nowadays, I see some lines dont flow right  xD
but I just moved in my new place not too long ago, and I dont have a scanner for the time being.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on May 25, 2017, 07:09:44 pm
Used overlap of pencil art and edited face with drawing pad.
Didn't like legs (they kinda look broken?), cropped it.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on May 31, 2017, 05:44:35 am
Hello. Edited CTR image, also added eye-balls.
Realize now I think I missed single frame of animation, but not matter much.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Echelon on August 02, 2017, 07:50:23 pm
Interesting, the blue orc one posted previously is different from this old one I still have. Thought I'd share it though.

Attached some others I had too.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on December 02, 2017, 01:01:20 am
Okay, I did this with the help of a bottle of jager...  i'll clean it up after... maybe in another 10 years  :iggy

Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on December 03, 2017, 12:26:04 am
Yes! That's a good-ass start. Nice job.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on December 04, 2017, 04:20:30 pm
Excellent indeed.

You can use a static layer in Photoshop so the penis remains a static underlay while the her movement animation goes over the top of it.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on December 04, 2017, 04:22:04 pm
Oh yea, forgot had this, was making some weird x-ray thing, might as well post.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: BremenDruid on December 04, 2017, 06:11:16 pm
Nice! I like it. I've always loved x-ray porn, especially if the guy cums inside the chick.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on April 28, 2018, 09:44:50 pm
just gonna throw this on the ol' WIP pile
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on May 03, 2018, 09:08:52 pm
no cameltoe outline :cappy
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on May 04, 2018, 10:16:59 pm
I figure details like that are part of the WIP. That, or the golem's girth stretches those details out.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on May 05, 2018, 04:22:17 pm
I was debating whether it would show any outline of some sort from this angle,
edage does have a certain way of drawing the female public bone.
the shape does dip in quite a bit before showing anything.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on May 29, 2018, 03:44:44 pm
I've been working on un/de-censoring Viper stuff recently, and I've hit a block.

This block is because I use a combination of recent and old version of the games to overlap and see where the lines are, along with artbook sketches when available.

The one game that I'm hyper focusing on because dammit I'm SO close to getting it right is VIPER GTB and by sheer butt-[BLEEP]-ing coincidence, it's also the ONE artbook that I can't find any [BLEEP]-ing where!

Needless to say I'm very frustrated by this and I'm begging for someone to throw me a bone.  The only place I found when I was looking for the book was one very very VERY old post on the Anime-fall forum, and that was a flipping rapdishare download.  Needless to say, being so close and so very far is wearing on my last nerve.

Here's some of the stuff I've managed to do so far, from various games/pics.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on June 04, 2018, 07:43:50 am
As far as online galleries, I can't help you much. I don't have a zip file or folder for the GTB Art Book either, which means I've never come across it digitally either.

But as for the physical VIPER-GTB Official Art Book, I have it for sale in the shop. (http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/forsale.html)  Priced at $32 but I'll offer discount of $5 since you're giving back to the community. (Even more discount if you buy other things.)
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on June 08, 2018, 06:42:58 pm
Found these on sankakucomplex. Thought they were pretty well done.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on June 13, 2018, 06:13:17 pm
Quote from: JG on June 04, 2018, 07:43:50 am
As far as online galleries, I can't help you much. I don't have a zip file or folder for the GTB Art Book either, which means I've never come across it digitally either.

But as for the physical VIPER-GTB Official Art Book, I have it for sale in the shop. (http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/forsale.html)  Priced at $32 but I'll offer discount of $5 since you're giving back to the community. (Even more discount if you buy other things.)
Damn.  Issue with that is that I’m digitally tracing the uncensored art from the books, and/or eyeballing the pixel-by-pixel discolorations in the censoring to guess where the harder lines and shifts in color are.

And no, I’m not kidding on that last one.  Perfectionism/OCD picks a hell of a time to kick in, neh?

[EDIT]

Managed to get this ONE FRAME from GTB last night, though the quality of such is definitely up in the air.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on July 04, 2018, 08:20:11 pm
Edits.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on July 07, 2018, 10:21:19 am
Still rough.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: orc on October 19, 2018, 09:41:07 am
I want to see decensored of this picture.....
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: G-1 on November 05, 2018, 08:29:46 pm
I think I found something that might work... Its a decensoring tool that decensors pixels.
https://github.com/deeppomf/DeepCreamPy
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 06, 2018, 03:42:30 pm
That is an interesting project, I do hope they improve their model.
If I ever get into DeepLearning, that would be an interesting project to make, uncensoring censored images.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 09, 2018, 05:21:35 am
Quote from: G-1 on November 05, 2018, 08:29:46 pm
I think I found something that might work... Its a decensoring tool that decensors pixels.
https://github.com/deeppomf/DeepCreamPy

Interesting. I've mostly just been trying to guess the light/shadow/half-tone/cast-shadow using the eye-dropper tool.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 16, 2018, 06:26:15 pm
Edits.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Saika on November 19, 2018, 12:26:11 am
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on November 16, 2018, 06:26:15 pm
Edits.

Hay dood, I got some images that can help you with this edit gift, I remember I saw some images and gifs where u can see Miki's lips and as well the guy D%&k she is blowing a bit.

Maybe it can help you to make a perfect uncensored gif.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 19, 2018, 06:42:11 pm
Can't see anything in your post, and when I try to visit the image's links, it gives me an Error message.
You should probably upload those pics to the forums, so when the forums get backed up, those images are saved here.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 19, 2018, 07:33:32 pm
Quote from: Saika on November 19, 2018, 12:26:11 am
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on November 16, 2018, 06:26:15 pm
Edits.

Hay dood, I got some images that can help you with this edit gift, I remember I saw some images and gifs where u can see Miki's lips and as well the guy D%&k she is blowing a bit.

Maybe it can help you to make a perfect uncensored gif.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You'll have to upload them as mentioned above can't see the images.

Be happy to have a go.

-

Some stuff was bashing together.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on November 21, 2018, 12:09:23 pm
Quote from: 黒い灯影 on November 19, 2018, 06:42:11 pm
... so when the forums get backed up, those images are saved here.

Partially true. Textual content from database is backed up to file periodically but I don't backup attachments folder.
Since building the new server early 2017, I haven't had a backup device attached. Not sure I need one, as the Raided SSDs should backup each other in event of single drive failure. This doesn't solve for complete server destruction though.
That said, I've just backed up the entire website to my workstations backup device, but since this is only 15 feet away it doesn't solve for complete home destruction (for which, admittedly, restoring the website would be low priority.)  As a final deterrent against loss, I will aim to get it on a USB memory stick to be stored outside my home in future (will look for a suitable one in Black Friday sales) but if it ever had to be used for that purpose, the site probably would have been mostly offline for several weeks. Godaddy would likely allow me to redirect DNS somewhere to post a small webpage explaining the issue, but full recovery would take some time.


Still, should use the attachment feature for all content supported by it. I activated just about every common file type and set the size limit rather high at 20MB per attachment and 100 per post, so there's very little reason to use offsite linking to sites that aren't reliable. You can use reliable things like imgur or other major websites, but don't use unknown stuff or raw IP addresses.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 21, 2018, 04:46:15 pm
I tried as best as I could to give the lips form.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 22, 2018, 10:53:46 am
nice job, there's a few things you can use as reference to improve, there's screenshots in one of the magazines where its partially uncensored, and the PC98 version of the game, show the shape of the lips.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Saika on November 23, 2018, 06:03:06 am
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on November 19, 2018, 07:33:32 pm
Quote from: Saika on November 19, 2018, 12:26:11 am
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on November 16, 2018, 06:26:15 pm
Edits.

Hay dood, I got some images that can help you with this edit gift, I remember I saw some images and gifs where u can see Miki's lips and as well the guy D%&k she is blowing a bit.

Maybe it can help you to make a perfect uncensored gif.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You'll have to upload them as mentioned above can't see the images.

Be happy to have a go.

-

Some stuff was bashing together.

Going to try just putting links, cus its not that easy to upload Sogna/Viper images to websits now a days, they get taken down really fast as well, its hard to pass on images to some of u guys since almost no one in here dosent have Twitter/FB/Discord/etc... makes it a BIT hard to pass images tbh.

Ill just put the direct link and so that way it cant be shown, hope it works, also it be in spoilers cus some images are big.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I hope it works or helps as well u can see whats going on behine that censored, this are the best images that u can see Miki's lips as well the junk.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 23, 2018, 10:31:09 am
Quote from: Saika on November 23, 2018, 06:03:06 am

Going to try just putting links, cus its not that easy to upload Sogna/Viper images to websits now a days, they get taken down really fast as well, its hard to pass on images to some of u guys since almost no one in here dosent have Twitter/FB/Discord/etc... makes it a BIT hard to pass images tbh.

Ill just put the direct link and so that way it cant be shown, hope it works, also it be in spoilers cus some images are big.

I hope it works or helps as well u can see whats going on behine that censored, this are the best images that u can see Miki's lips as well the junk.

Really, they take down Viper images these days?
why not just upload directly to this site? 
do you have trouble uploading to the site?
If anything else, Imgur has been reliable in my experience, don't really use much other image hosts.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 23, 2018, 11:40:55 am
..
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 23, 2018, 02:45:07 pm
nice, its getting there, just need to move the veins as much as the guy's hips move too
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 23, 2018, 04:07:01 pm
Leaving it at that I think.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Saika on November 23, 2018, 08:22:58 pm
Looking better, I HOPE the images I posted help more so, I HOPE u can see them I used Discord to upload them.

The Pubic hair hair looks a bit... strange imo, U maybe wanna fix it.


Quote from: 黒い灯影 on November 23, 2018, 10:31:09 am
Quote from: Saika on November 23, 2018, 06:03:06 am

Going to try just putting links, cus its not that easy to upload Sogna/Viper images to websits now a days, they get taken down really fast as well, its hard to pass on images to some of u guys since almost no one in here dosent have Twitter/FB/Discord/etc... makes it a BIT hard to pass images tbh.

Ill just put the direct link and so that way it cant be shown, hope it works, also it be in spoilers cus some images are big.

I hope it works or helps as well u can see whats going on behine that censored, this are the best images that u can see Miki's lips as well the junk.

Really, they take down Viper images these days?
why not just upload directly to this site? 
do you have trouble uploading to the site?
If anything else, Imgur has been reliable in my experience, don't really use much other image hosts.

I use to use Photobucket and some of the other places I use to upload images have been taken down, so its hard to fine place to upload images.

Also I dont know how to upload images here directly ^^'
Its been WAY to long since I uploaded a direct image here or if I recall,  it could not been done till a few years.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 23, 2018, 08:24:28 pm
I'll try get round to it at some point, but it's very time consuming. Need to go over layers multiple times.
This one is abit easier than the others because it's simple top down perspective, you can eye-ball alot of it.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on November 23, 2018, 10:48:19 pm
Quote from: Saika on November 23, 2018, 08:22:58 pm
I use to use Photobucket and some of the other places I use to upload images have been taken down, so its hard to fine place to upload images.

Also I dont know how to upload images here directly ^^'
Its been WAY to long since I uploaded a direct image here or if I recall,  it could not been done till a few years.

Its simple to upload here, if you have the files on your computer....
I attached a pic to show you, When you're about to post by pressing "Reply" (not using the Quick Reply below),
there's an option below the text box "Attachments and other options", click that.. and attach your pics.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Saika on November 24, 2018, 01:46:51 am
I see, its better to know now thx, Ill put the 4 pic that way.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on May 30, 2019, 12:53:28 am
So, I graduated college, giving me a lot more free time to work on all sorts of things...kinda.  Among those are all the Viper decensoring stuff that I had started, but then had to save to an external hard-drive when my computer started getting filled.  Said hard-drive is now skipping when I plug it in, so I can't actually get those files back, so THAT'S just a joy to deal with...

ANYWAY! I've started over from scratch on most of the VIPER stuff I'd been working on, but on the flipside, I now know a lot more about editing and decensoring than I did before, and I can use it as an opportunity to make the process easier/better.  HOPEFULLY, anyway.

To whit, I decided to take the gif of Makoto giving a guy head, split up the frames, and put them through the One of the Waifu, or Waifu2x site.
http://waifu2x.udp.jp/

I've found that, regarding the frames from Viper Gifs, there's a strange bit of clarity you get when the "Reduce Jpeg Artifacting" option is set to the second-highest level.  That's for some gifs though, not all of them, and the frames I'm using, I ONLY doubled the size without any artifact reduction.  just wanted to start simple, I guess.

The Imgur Gallery has the individual frames AND the double-sized ones following the originals.

https://imgur.com/a/2rKnjJ3

Now, that said, I am screwing around with other gifs and noticed something weird/funny/possibly useful.  This doesn't work with the Makoto Oral gifs or others from the same game. But when I open gifs from, say VIPER-GTB, using Windows Photo Gallery, it has a strange effect.  Rather than being able to see the next slide of the gif, instead, the image changes to ONLY show whatever changed from one slide/layer of the gif to the next.  Case in point, this screen capture of the first and second slides of when the Sea Queen was riding the white-haired guy while looking over her shoulder.

Now, I'm wondering why looking at SOME kinds of gifs using Photo Gallery Does this.  But more importantly, I want to know if I can intentionally make other gifs do the same thing because this seems like a way to make it much easier to decensor/see what's underneath the mosaic for these pictures!

Anybody think I'm on the right track?  With...well...any of this?
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on May 30, 2019, 01:48:14 am
Yeah, most of the animations in Viper games are built that way. Most Gif animator software should also have an "optimize" option somewhere that will do that for you automatically. i.e. You'll have a set of fully rendered frames, then just hit the optimize button and everything after the first frame should get transparent pixels wherever the image doesn't change. The software should likewise have an "unoptimize" feature to take all the transparency out for when you're working on it. The optimization feature is mainly for saving on filespace.

GT1's data storage was different. It's been a while and I forget how to even view them in their raw state, but I seem to remember little to no usage of transparency. It would explain why there's less animation overall in that game, at least.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on May 30, 2019, 08:34:41 am
Mostly right. GIF files have a data block preceding frames that, along with describing how many hundredths of seconds to delay, also describe whether or not the next frame erases the video buffer or draws over it.  Drawing over previous frame with only the pixels that change is much more efficient from a file size compression standpoint, and the only cost is reducing your max color depth from 256 to 255 colors so one of them can represent transparency.  The ANM files used by Sogna games work the same way though without the data block (it stores the same data in the WIN file rather than the ANM) - blue is usually the color used for transparency in Sogna ANMs, but like GIF, it can be anything.

Photo Gallery isn't great software, and isn't showing you the fully rendered frame, which requires drawing all previous frames first. So the first frame looks fine, but all others are showing you only the changes from the previous. You'll need some better software. I use an old version of JASC Paint Shop Pro's Animation Shop. (And I do mean old, as in PSP 5 from 1998. GIF hasn't changed since well before then though so it can do just about everything I'd want.)

GT1 uses Shockwave Flash which stores images in a similar fashion. Drawing only changes between frames is the way to go, as everyone uses it. MPEG video works the same way, though it introduces key frames every so often to redraw the entire frame from scratch in case the stream is corrupted. If you're watching video online or digital cable TV and the image goes wonky for a second or two and then recovers, its because the renderer consumed some bad data and is drawing the changed frames out of sequence until it processes the next key frame. (This same thing can happen with audio streams too, but the human ear isn't as sensitive to such mistakes as our eyes.)
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on June 04, 2019, 09:48:11 pm
Alright, I'm taking all of that advice, still trucking away at some of the gifs.

When I'm not getting distracted by other things...case in point, downloading the english translations of the CTR Visual Novel, taking a look at the gifs for some scenes in the CTR game and deciding to play a little storytime with them.

It STARTED as just a copy-pasta from the VN Translation...except it was a little threadbare to me, so I ended up altering the text a bit and filling it out more...

...then about an hour ago, I got the idea to make the gifs bigger and do it again...situational perfectionism can be a vicious cycle, lol.

Talking on that though, I cannot for the life of me find a Gif of the scene in CTR when Miki is talking to the Captain that comes RIGHT before this one.  There's plenty where it shows her moaning/shouting, but none of the bit where she's talking and then blushes and talks again.  Can anybody help me out?
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on June 06, 2019, 03:03:10 pm
Very interesting. Might try this as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on June 06, 2019, 09:50:16 pm
This the blushing/talking part you wanted?

Putting it together from the original files was actually a bit of a pain since the individual layers aren't automatically aligned correctly. I even just noticed that her first set of mouth flaps aren't blended with the right frame in-game. It goes by fast enough that most people wouldn't notice, but if you watch closely you can see the errant line of pixels below her mouth when she speaks. (Not in this version. I aligned the layers correctly.) Anyway, aside from the lack of interesting bits in frame, I could see why other gif compilers tend to skip this one. I didn't mind the exercise though, I hadn't played around with Graphaholic or gif animations for a long time.

As a bonus and since it's also in the same scene, here are a couple different decensors of the previous shot. The one with the angry eyes is a repost of someone else's work. I think it's the better decensor though the facial expression isn't in the original. The other is one I did earlier, though I never liked how it turned out. Then one more of the same pose transplanted to a different scene.

 
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on June 06, 2019, 10:44:28 pm
That first gif is what I was talking about, thank you.

As for decensoring, there's a weird thing with that where I try to use the official artbooks to trace a bit, then adjust or make assumptions as needed.  Trick is, GTB is one where the gifs are weirdly easy to see where the lines are, at times, but that's the ONLY art-book that doesn't exist anywhere online.  Which is a fair bit infuriating, lemme tell you.

But, that aside I found these awhile back, which are from some kind of VN by the guy who did the VIPER series, but the pics are uncensored.  So, just something to keep in mind as to what things SHOULD look like under the mosaic, keep it close to this?
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on June 07, 2019, 09:33:33 pm
Quote from: janusmaxwell on June 06, 2019, 10:44:28 pm
But, that aside I found these awhile back, which are from some kind of VN by the guy who did the VIPER series, but the pics are uncensored.  So, just something to keep in mind as to what things SHOULD look like under the mosaic, keep it close to this?

Several artists did VIPER games. The one who drew Miki and Asuka's games was Edage Katsura.  The one who drew those uncensored images is Takahiro Kimura (who went by alias Awaji Sugawara for his Sogna work.)  They wouldn't necessarily have the same uncensored styles.

Those uncensored images are from a mini-game beta called Situation Play, by πO2 (pi-O2.)  πO2 made lots of these little games, but since this one had artwork from Takahiro Kimura, who was by this time famous for things like V.G., VIPER-V16/GTB, Dirty Pair Flash, GaoGaiGar, Betterman, etc. its by far the most famous π02 work, and its only a beta, with a single two or three minute scene consisting of nine non-animated images. They were obviously planning a larger game, but I think he had to drop out due to be offering the head character design and artist role for Godanner.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on June 08, 2019, 04:51:19 am
Why has no one mentioned all this before. Kimura's work here looks sooooo good  :o
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: janusmaxwell on June 08, 2019, 11:50:53 am
Huh.  I was not aware of all those details, thank you!  Also, now I have a new name when I want to search for Viper Stuff which might be hidden-ish on various archive sites.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on June 09, 2019, 02:49:23 pm
Quote from: janusmaxwell on June 08, 2019, 11:50:53 am
Also, now I have a new name when I want to search for Viper Stuff which might be hidden-ish on various archive sites.

Well the Japanese versions may be more helpful for that.
Edage Katsura: 桂枝毛
Edage Katsura's real name (Kenichirou Katsura): 桂憲一郎
Takahiro Kimura: 木村貴宏
TK's Awaji Sugawara alias: すがわらあわじ (rarely 菅原淡路, but usually written as kana to identify it as an alias)


As VIPER artists, discussion about their other endeavors is certainly allowed on the forum, but perhaps in threads under the Non-Sogna/VIPER heading.  Let's not derail this thread with too much non-decensoring discussion.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on June 14, 2019, 07:03:02 pm
Another effort.

Not entirely sure why but the final gif is uploading as a still.

Here's the other gif for whatever reason won't upload - https://giphy.com/gifs/h5i39MBudJ8tlWhRtG
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on June 15, 2019, 07:37:50 pm
Dude's dick upside-down?
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on June 15, 2019, 10:13:29 pm
Noticed that half way through but (at least for now) couldn't be bothered changing it. Time consuming stuff.

Another wip
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on June 16, 2019, 11:25:04 am
Quote from: Rai on June 15, 2019, 07:37:50 pm
Dude's dick upside-down?

You never knew the dude's dick was actually upside down?  :P
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on June 20, 2019, 12:15:41 pm
Moderately fixed.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 08, 2019, 12:05:58 am
So DeepCreamPy v2 was just released recently, and i decided to give it a try.
...and the results are scary rather interesting.
I only had enough time to quickly try it on a single image, will be interesting to see how it performs on other pics.

I uploaded the V2 results both Mosaic and non-Mosaic options, and a result from v1 for comparison
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on August 18, 2019, 05:01:47 pm
that's really darn good. i need to give this a try
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on August 19, 2019, 12:37:25 pm
Interesting results, never heard of this software before.
Looks very useful.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on August 29, 2019, 07:57:14 pm
wip
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on August 30, 2019, 04:27:06 pm
Not happy with the way this is turning out, will return to it at some point.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on October 03, 2019, 05:38:19 pm
Been working on this on and off, added an extra frame with some additional animation. Keep working on it see how far it can go.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Moge on October 10, 2019, 11:14:59 pm
very naisu
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on November 20, 2019, 07:32:05 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: BremenDruid on December 23, 2019, 09:30:03 pm
Nice. I've been working on an additional part of this animation where it starts with Miki looking up at the guy as he forces himself into her mouth. I want to do more with it and am working on making it a little rougher, but here's an image of what I've been doing with it.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on June 10, 2021, 06:27:16 pm
WIP. Try add head and balls if possible.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on February 19, 2022, 05:25:15 pm
I'll try to combine this with the animation.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on July 21, 2022, 03:23:45 am
just something i tried my hand at one evening.. donno how i feel about it though...
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: Rai on July 21, 2022, 10:11:33 pm
Probably the best attempt of that shot I've seen, at least. Just noticed I had two other decensors of that scene saved from 2011 that aren't in this thread so might as well add them. Plus one of a different view. Seems no one is sure exactly where the holes should be.

I might be responsible for one or two of these? Can't remember. Too long ago.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 02, 2023, 07:28:02 pm
I finally got a Cintiq drawing tablet, so I can make better lines on the screen, although Im not an great artist myself.. one day I hope to be..
Here's a WIP of the wide Golem Cala scene
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on August 03, 2023, 10:26:46 am
FYI, that animation has already been fully decensored.

Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on August 03, 2023, 12:42:08 pm
yeah, ive seen that, i didn't like how Golem's penis is completely straight all the time, while Cala's hips are raised up at one point
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on August 04, 2023, 01:40:39 pm
Monster anatomy :P
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on September 01, 2023, 07:29:50 am
I swear this seller has a bad habit of teasing his auctions... lol
he puts them up for a random day for a couple of hours, then takes it down... until a number of days later, and his auction only last a day and a half.
Shame i missed out on this, but the 2nd time he listed it, it was for 100,000 yen, after a series of Viper art went up, highest one selling for around 160,000-ish yen.
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on September 06, 2023, 12:13:34 pm
This is excellent, do you have anymore CTR sketch material?

Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on September 06, 2023, 12:42:34 pm
i may have some more somewhere, i save them all over my computer
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: JG on September 06, 2023, 03:20:01 pm
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on September 06, 2023, 12:13:34 pm
This is excellent, do you have anymore CTR sketch material?

I own these two sketches, but aren't censored/decensored.

(http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/gallery/collections/jg/artwork_cel_ctr_scene_g1_frame_17.jpg)

(http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/gallery/collections/jg/artwork_proof_asuka.jpg)
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on September 06, 2023, 03:41:07 pm
I also have more CTR original drawings, but they are in a case that's at my place in the city.
Here's another series of the same scene, with the correction sheets.  And i believe this one also had the Animation Timing List.
I find it funny to see the difference between the original and correction.. lol
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on September 07, 2023, 04:12:20 am
Much appreciated.  ;D

Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: HellotoYouSir on September 07, 2023, 04:22:52 am
Quote from: JG on September 06, 2023, 03:20:01 pm
Quote from: HellotoYouSir on September 06, 2023, 12:13:34 pm
This is excellent, do you have anymore CTR sketch material?

I own these two sketches, but aren't censored/decensored.

(http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/gallery/collections/jg/artwork_cel_ctr_scene_g1_frame_17.jpg)

(http://www.sognadigitalmuseum.com/gallery/collections/jg/artwork_proof_asuka.jpg)

Thank you.  :cool
Title: Re: Decensored VIPER stuff
Post by: 黒い灯影 on September 25, 2023, 04:13:25 am
some stuff that went up for auction, unfortunately i didn't win

note: scaled up by AI