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Title: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 20, 2009, 02:22:39 am
Holy crap i cant believe this site is still here. I know damn well no one here remembers me.

But sadly i come seeking help from you all. (hope i dont seem like a jerk)
You help me obtain what i feel is a complete collection of viper gifs Bt I was hoping i could get your guy's help in tracking down a different game.

I knew of this game for a long time but cant seem to track down anything from it.

Battle Team lakers.
http://yukatakeuchifan.bakunyuu.com/natsune.html
This link is the closest thing i ever found of images and what not from the game. Then i came across the attached gif to this thread. I didnt know it was animated! Now i have to find it. But all searches lead me to the crappy OVA made.

Does anyone know anything related tot his game! i cant find any sign of it.

On a related note does anyone even know any good sies fro collections of bishoujo games?

If this game is found im gonna make screen captures and movie files of it as soon as i do!.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 21, 2009, 08:56:35 am
The Japanese title is 聖少女戦隊レイカーズ (Seishoujo Sentai Lakers)  It's hard to find anything about it because its old.

It was originally a 3 game series in the mid-90s for PC98 hardware. The OVA came a little bit later and is a huge disappointment becuase it didn't utilize the series artist, Kantori (http://kantori.sakura.ne.jp/).  If you've seen the NEEDLE GARDEN or Genchichiken series, you've seen his stuff.

The game's producer was APPLE PIE, who has long been out of business.  Would have been nice to have seen a remake of it though.

I could get you the games but they're bloody hard to play (Japanese knowledge required) and only work in true DOS (can't run in Windows DOS modes)  You'll probably be happier with just the CG anyway:
Lakers 1 (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers1cg.zip)
Lakers 2 (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers2cg.zip)
Lakers 3 (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers3cg.zip)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 22, 2009, 03:41:23 pm
Wow also forgot how great you guys were for having stuff like that lying around! Thank you very much. Now i don't have to play the first 2 games!

I did find the games ironically! i can play them on anex86.

The 3rd one you gave me is taking a while to load but im gonna assume the animations aren't in there?
i did come across a set from some one else that gave me all the frames to make animated gifs from the 3rd game.

HOWEVER
It didnt have the animations from the sex scenes (they are only like 4 or 5 frames long but i want the bounce action =P). . . and untill i get back from work im gonna assume the archive you gave me doesn't have all the frames for the sex scenes either.

So yes it is gonna be tough navigating around the game in japanese =/ and with no walkthrough. . . But i did wanna get a capture off those animations.

IT shouldn't be greatly hard for the first set of scenes.

The only one problem is that i think there are different endings with all the girls. . . so if the ending sex scenes are animated then i guess im gonna have to play the game over and over again till i have a save file for each ending. . . T-T unless i get to choose which girl at the end. then that wont be to bad. .  I could also be wrong on the alternate ending in general.

This is all assuming of course you haven't supplied me with an alternative in the set. Ill check when i get back from work.

But thank you for what you have given me thus far! saved me a lot of work!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 23, 2009, 02:26:07 am
no my friend you do indeed rock!. The file came with the sex scenes and then it has smaller pics of the animated parts. a little work in photoshop and i have this animated gif!

And since they are already kept in the same size this has now became a FRACTION of the work i was expecting to do by playing the game.

Many thanks!
I will be sure to share the fruits of my labor once done if anyone is interested in gif images.

IF not then i wont bother.

But either way thank you!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 23, 2009, 07:53:44 pm
Welcome.

By the way, the ending scenes aren't animated, just oversized so they scroll up. The only animations are in the in-game H-scenes and the Lakers girls' transformations, and only in game 3.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 24, 2009, 03:42:08 am
well here is all the gifs i made so far. all that's left are the ones of them doing special attacks.
I'll have those done when i get them organized. some were off and a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 24, 2009, 03:45:18 am
By the way. I thought i mite test your knowledge a little further.
Here I thought i was at the end of my search and i stumble across this pic of all times. . . at the end of my 2 week search and work.

It looks like the character Natsune. . . But its too clear to be from a game and is to good to be from the anime. . .
Do you know what this is taken from. . .?? Box art perhaps?
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Hyperguy on November 24, 2009, 12:58:58 pm
Looks like promotional artwork.  It matches the same style of art before it's digitized.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 24, 2009, 08:12:41 pm
ya i figured it would be something like that. I think im just gonna be happy i have the  game CG and settle. at least i got hat probably is the only promo art of Natsune. shes the only one i liked =P

Don't wanna waste another 2 weeks browsing random japanese sites looking for it.

But if anyone knows anything feel free to share =D

Any who here are the rest of the gifs. I fixed number 13. apparently the old one didn't want to loop.

And as for the the action gifs. The purple haired one was the one that had an odd order in the folder. I couldn't figure it out so i just made it as is.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 24, 2009, 08:25:15 pm
Its one of the images from the Lakers artbook.  Kantori also put the same image into his NEEDLE GARDEN 3 set. (It's a cleaner image than the one from the artbook so I've posted it instead.)


(http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/images/forum/lakers_photos.jpg)



But if anyone knows anything feel free to share =D

Oh, I can answer just about anything about the Lakers series.  While VIPER is my expertise, my fascination with Lakers isn't far behind. (I'd discovered it two years before VIPER.)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 24, 2009, 10:19:34 pm
And since someone will undoubtedly ask if I don't, I'll give some background to the series:

The Lakers team are the reincarnated souls of six survivors of Blade Star, an ancient alien civilization whose inhabitants were nearly wiped out in a civil war.  Coming to Earth, they transformed themselves into tiny crystals and became part of the host bodies of several babies. The kids grew up not knowing anything about this and their powers only manifest after they have sex together.

The games take place over the course of a full school year, the last three of high school for all but one of the characters.  Thus, the series was always meant to end with game 3.

Akira Daidoudzi -
The only male of the group, the oldest, and the tallest.  He’s the leader of the whole team but isn’t considered a Laker himself.  When his powers manifest, he becomes Blade Knight, who wears white armor, helmet, and sports a huge sword, giving him the best offense in battle. As the only guy in the group, it takes his involvement to manifest the powers of the five girls. He falls hard for Reiko and after they have sex they discover their hidden powers together. He’s good at soccer and by the third game is captain of the team and hopes to go to a university on a soccer scholarship.

Reiko Kagurazaka -
The redhead and leader of the Lakers girls. She’s the third oldest of the girls, average in height (5’3”) and build, and also quite average in battle stats. She’s a singer/idol and by the third game becomes so famous that the time it takes to invest in her singing starts to wear on her relationship with Akira, who she started dating at the end of the first game but breaks up with at the start of the third game.  She’s generally kind and loving through the first two games, but rather isolated in the third. The other girls are all jealous of her relationship with Akira. Her powers manifest as Star Laker.

Chiaki Kurata -
The taller girl with long purple hair. She’s second in charge of the Lakers girls, the oldest, and second tallest (5’6”).  Not necessarily Reiko’s best friend, but the one she feels most comfortable the others will follow if she were to fall in battle. She’s kind of a slacker and can often be found up on the roof skipping class.  She likes to keep her blouse untucked and even carries around a cigarette (though its never lit) but it’s just to keep up appearances, as she’s actually a very insecure young lady.  She doesn’t see much need for education because she plans to learn how to be a master chef from her father, who runs a restaurant.  She’s a fair cook now, at least better than the other girls but she can’t make sweets for some reason.  She’s got a serious crush on Akira but would never admit it openly. She has short fuse and is easily angered – she often scuffles with Natsune, who she sees as her rival and the only woman as strong as she is. Her powers manifest as Kung-fu Laker and she’s quite fast with a powerful offense and above average defense.

Natsune Tachibana -
The one most people recognize, because of her huge chest.  She’s the second youngest but tallest (5’7”) and strongest.  She’s #3 in the pecking order of Laker girls.  She’s something of a tomboy and can usually be found in the dojo training after school.  She wishes to be more feminine though.  She and Akira have been best friends since they were small children and when she finally develops feelings for him it becomes awkward between them.  Since they live next door to each other they often walk to and from school together. Her crush on Akira isn’t as strong as the others, but it pains her deeply to see him heartbroken in game 3 after Reiko essentially dumps him, and she tries to make things better in her special way (wink wink, hint hint.)  She manifests as Judo Laker.  Her heavy armor makes her move very slow in battle but she’s devastatingly powerful and possesses the strongest defense.  The only food she feels comfortable preparing for others are cakes.  When she goes to college she wants to major in sports medicine and become a professional trainer, though the chance to compete in the Olympics is still out there.

Yayoi Hikawa -
The one with long dark hair and glasses, though the glasses were not introduced until game 3. She’s the second oldest, but #4 of the Lakers girls because she’s short (5’2”), timid, and frail. She’s undisputedly the smartest of the five though and is usually the peacemaker of the group when the four hotheads start to argue. She’s often in the library, reading and studying.  She doesn’t hang around the other four girls as much because of her heavy school workload but enjoys their company when she can. She also helps out at her family’s Shinto temple. Her powers manifest as Soul Laker, a defensive position mainly devoted to healing and stats improvement, so she has poor offense and defense.

Yuka Moriyama -
Pink haired one.  She’s a year behind than the other girls (though only a few months younger than Natsune.)  She looks like the shortest but she’s not at 5’5”. Mostly cheerful, she’s the assistant captain of the soccer club and since Akira graduates at the end of game 3, she’ll be the captain next year. She considers Natsune her best friend, and hangs around her a lot.  Fairly flat-chested compared to the other girls, she’s somewhat jealous of and tries to mimic what Natsune eats in the hopes it’ll improve her bust size. (And it seems to backfire because she’s a decent size in 2 but back to flat in 3.)  She’s not really as childish as she acts and has a serious crush on Akira.  She manifests as Bunny Laker with big ears and paws – fast in battle but not that strong and a poor defense.


And now, the non-Lakers girls who become targets in game 3.  In order to get these girls, you’ll generally miss some event that would allow you to get one of the Lakers girls, or win them at the end.

Mika Meijima -
She’s the one who has brown hair in twin braids. She’s Yuka’s classmate and a close friend.  Introduced in game 2, she’s possessed by one of the Lakers enemies and tries to seduce Akira to weaken him so he’s unable to protect the Lakers girls. In game 3 she can become Akira’s girlfriend for a while, but her interests soon turn to the captain of the baseball team. Younger than Yuka, she’s got a pretty large chest for her age (not Natsune size but her description indicates proportionally equal to Reiko or Chiaki’s size.)  I believe you can get both her and Natsune in chapter 1, but I don’t know what the consequences are.

Miho Saitou -
The blonde. Also in Yuka’s grade, but not the same class.  She’s been training to be an idol since she was a child, so she’s never had friends, let alone a boyfriend.  Reiko is her rival and she feels that if she could win Akira (if even for a night), she’d finally beat her rival at something.  I’m certain you can’t get her and Reiko because their sex events occur at the same time.

Shiori Asagara -
The long blue-haired girl with the towel.  She’s one of the enemies who has lost her memory and Akira takes her into his home in the hopes that she might reveal some plan the enemy had. He falls for her though.  Getting her eliminates Reiko’s ending and I think it also prevents you from getting Yayoi’s scene.

Sensei Aya Nogami -
Your homeroom teacher.  She’s been a teacher for just a few years, so she’s still in her early 20s. She can be gotten when the team and a few classmates go to a resort during fall break.  She seems unhappy and if Akira investigates, he finds she’s been drinking. So she’s pretty easy to get.  I don’t know what the consequences are, but if you do Aya you miss the Peeping John scene Akira has when the Lakers girls are relaxing in the hot spring.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 25, 2009, 12:59:18 pm
HA HA wow! and yes i read that all and ti was very helpful. I had shared the same fascination with this series for a while. but back then i wasn't as educated as i was on tracking this stuff down. I remember tracking viper was a BITCH back then. But i did get an entire collection eventually.

I just didnt want to look again for this.
Till i saw that blasted animated gif! didn't know it was animated and just had to find it now.

And thanks to you im complete.

I think i know were to find that art book so i should be ok.

But if you have yet any more quick links by all means feel =P

But seriously great help! thanks!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 25, 2009, 01:02:52 pm
oops i take that back. i can only find the needlegarden book. Not the art book. do you by chance have that laying around =P?
Hope im not a bother again.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 26, 2009, 09:34:39 am
I've never seen full scans of the art book.  I know YTF had scans of the Natsune pages at one time but otherwise nada. I got my copy of off ebay many years ago, though YJ auctions would be a better place to find it now.

You wouldn't be missing much though - that image was the only one that I think is unique to the art book.  Everything else is in-game pictures or the sketches for those pictures. That and a couple of character face sketches.  The artbook does have character bios and a walkthrough and a timing chart to know where all the girls are at a certain time though, which is very useful if you're attempting to play it.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: XheroX on November 26, 2009, 02:17:30 pm
Being an art and animation major i kinda splurge over that kind of stuff. so no i wouldnt mind having it at all. production sketches and all that stuff is nice. So I just may try and look for some scans or maybe even a auction.

But im not gonna go crazy over it. Im happy with what i all have now. but once again if you have any links that could bring me closer to and end to this search, i am at attention.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Graen on April 21, 2010, 08:38:36 pm
Hi there,

I also happen to be a fellow Lakers fan, and was wondering if anyone knew how to convert the .OZ2 files from the original games to something useful like .BMP's.  I ask this, because from the zip files that were posted here earlier, I noticed they did not include all the art from the games.

As a token of good will, here are links to the Laker's Art Book and NEEDLE GARDEN Special.01
EDIT: Even when something is free, people still complain.  *le sigh*

Thanks,
Graen
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Hyperguy on April 21, 2010, 09:18:05 pm
As a token of good will, here are links to the Laker's Art Book (http://g.e-hentai.org/g/213222/4a25759b05/?r=287756) and NEEDLE GARDEN Special.01 (http://g.e-hentai.org/g/231767/aa6202806a/?r=287756).
Those aren't links to Laker's Art Book and Needle Garden Special 01.

Those are links to e-hentai, where you have to earn and spend imaginary internet money to download them.

That's like giving someone a can for their birthday while knowing they don't have a can opener.

Or like me linking to EditDisk while knowing that you don't have a converter for .OZ2 files.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: 黒い灯影 on April 22, 2010, 12:27:35 am
Rapidshare/Megaupload/[insert online storage host] uploads  That's a token of good will.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on April 22, 2010, 09:46:31 pm
was wondering if anyone knew how to convert the .OZ2 files from the original games to something useful like .BMP's.

As a Lakers lover as well (so much so that I own real copies of the games.) I have attempted this many times in the past with no luck.  In fact, I tried OZM as well, since its the format for Lakers 1 and 2 and seems to be precursor to OZ2.  I was able to determine the 16 color palette (which is right at the front) but not how the raster data is compressed.

That zip file you got probably came from me - I made it years ago with a DOS based computer and DOS screen capture utility, and converted the graphics one by one by renaming them each tot he tile screen graphic and starting the game, taking a snapshot, then repeating.  It's got all the graphics that are actually displayable as the title screen graphic.


And nevermind Hyperguy.  He's just upset that he doesn't have the time to download the images one by one becuase he's playing MMORPGs all day. (By the way, it only takes one or two galleries to upload to earn enough credits to download just about anything you want, as often as you'd want.)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Graen on April 23, 2010, 01:48:18 am
Thanks for the reply JG00.  And for the zip files too!  If I find anything else about decoding the files I'll be sure to post it in here.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on November 22, 2010, 01:09:31 pm
JG00:
I'm also a fan of Lakers series. I have played all 3 games but lost my copy. Can you upload the games for me? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 22, 2010, 07:42:00 pm
Sure, only becuase I want to spread the goodness that is Lakers.

These are the only versions I have though.  I would be greatly appreciative of anyone who posts the other Japanese PC98 versions or the Windows versions.  You'll need a DOS emulator or an old PC to run the DOS/V versions.  Anex86 is included with the PC98 version of 3.

Lakers I - Chinese DOS/V (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers1_dosv.zip)
Lakers II - Chinese DOS/V (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers2_dosv.zip)
Lakers III - Chinese DOS/V (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers3_dosv.zip)
Lakers III - Japanese PC98 (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers3_pc98.zip)


A truckload of Rep+ points to anyone who downloads these and solves the decompression of the OZM and OZ2 image files.  Use these if you need to compare to manually extracted bitmaps.  I could get far enough to decode the palette, but not the bitmap data.

Lakers I CG (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers1cg.zip)
Lakers II CG (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers2cg.zip)
Lakers III CG (http://www.jonathandgriffith.com/files/forum/lakers3cg.zip)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on November 20, 2011, 03:37:33 pm
Sorry for the long delay in replying your post.

Thanks for sharing, but I can only get the CG. Can you upload those files again?

The version I got long time ago were the DOS/V version, not the PC98 ones. I don't remember clearly but I think the Lakers 3 I got was the rip version because there was no music. I don't remember if there's an opening/ending movie.

I just got the Lakers artbook from e-hentai. I can upload it if someone wants it.

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 21, 2011, 07:15:45 am
Games have been reuploaded.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on November 23, 2011, 06:42:15 pm
Games have been reuploaded.
Thanks, I've downloaded all the games now. I just noticed that some of the girls name are different between the Chinese and Japanese version. Dunno why they changed some of the names.

Do you have the newer Windows version? I read in Wikipedia that Apple Pie released the Windows version for each of the Lakers series during 1996-1997. It's hard to find the old Japanese games.

Source:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%81%96%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E6%88%A6%E9%9A%8A%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 24, 2011, 09:31:30 am
Thanks, I've downloaded all the games now. I just noticed that some of the girls name are different between the Chinese and Japanese version. Dunno why they changed some of the names.

Some of the names may not translate well or be pronounced the same in Chinese.  Hard to say exactly why.


Do you have the newer Windows version? I read in Wikipedia that Apple Pie released the Windows version for each of the Lakers series during 1996-1997.

No I don't have any either Windows game but would like to get them.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on April 27, 2019, 10:50:47 am
I'm glad this topic still exists-- I found it a long time ago and bookmarked it.  I wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread-- I've been a long time fan of the lovely girls that are the Lakers for a long, long time... so having a resource (however limited) that could tell me about their identities and personalities beyond merely their names was a real blessing.

Myself?  It's old history, but I was the person who screencapped Natsune's iconic chest and posted it into a certain yahoo group all those years ago... but all the knowledge and resources gathered since, I can't take any credit for that!  Thank you, JG, for your wonderful character write-ups, and the posting of the in game data rips and all else.  As a fan of Natsune, Chiaki, Yayoi, and all the rest of them, finally knowing them really was the greatest thing I could ever find.

It's hardly anything, but the least I can do is repay yours, and everyone else's, kindness in some way... so here's art I was able to come across from the Windows port of Sei Shoujo Sentai Lakers III.  Again, thank you all so much.  I know thread necro is bad forum etiquette, but I really wanted to do something for this thread-- especially since the anniversary of Lakers III's intial release date was just yesterday!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on May 03, 2019, 04:34:08 pm
Its a shame older stuff like VIPER and Lakers is fading into history. I'm still delighted when I find new fanart on pixiv and similar places, but as rare as it is to find VIPER stuff (mostly Cala these days), Lakers is even rarer. I think its been 2 or 3 years since I've come across anything new.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on May 04, 2019, 09:32:33 am
Well, I've seen a couple of fan arts lately on Twitter, so there's some interest out there.  Was there still an interest or want to get those Windows versions of the game?  I've got the Windows port of Lakers I & II in transit (held up by all this Golden Week, of course), but I want to know if there's a real need for extracting what's on the disc when it arrives, or if that has long ago been fulfilled?

Here's a fan art of Natsune from just last year.
 (https://twitter.com/HaiHiko/status/1068500290037440512)

Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on May 07, 2019, 04:13:31 pm
Well, I've seen a couple of fan arts lately on Twitter, so there's some interest out there.  Was there still an interest or want to get those Windows versions of the game?  I've got the Windows port of Lakers I & II in transit (held up by all this Golden Week, of course), but I want to know if there's a real need for extracting what's on the disc when it arrives, or if that has long ago been fulfilled?

I feel like I've bought the Windows ports in the past, but I'm not sure what box they might be in within my closet or if I'm just thinking I own them. I'm pretty sure there wasn't any additional artwork like there was on the Lakers 3 Windows disc that you posted above. If I owned them I surely would have checked.

I do have all three of the Japanese PC98 versions now (instead of just chapter III that I posted above), in both PC98 digital formats (FDI and HDI) as well as actual physical disks. Those I found with a quick peek into my closet but the Windows versions weren't in the same box which leads me to suspect I do not own them.




Here's a fan art of Natsune from just last year. (https://twitter.com/HaiHiko/status/1068500290037440512)

You are my hero this week. It is rare for someone here to present anything either VIPER or Lakers related that I'd not discovered first.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on May 20, 2019, 12:46:33 pm
It's hardly anything, but the least I can do is repay yours, and everyone else's, kindness in some way... so here's art I was able to come across from the Windows port of Sei Shoujo Sentai Lakers III.  Again, thank you all so much.  I know thread necro is bad forum etiquette, but I really wanted to do something for this thread-- especially since the anniversary of Lakers III's intial release date was just yesterday!
What? You got the Windows port of Lakers III? Could you upload it somewhere?

@JG:
Someone just uploaded Windows port of Lakers I & II. Can I post it here?
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on May 20, 2019, 01:48:38 pm
I don't have a problem if old games are posted - the original producer isn't making any money off sales (and like Sogna, APPLE PIE is long dead as a company)

Its the newer stuff, particularly doujinshi, that I frown upon and may take action against. I want to give people time to make their money, but after a while, it may be more productive to give it away for free to spark interest in paying for the new stuff.  Sadly, there isn't really all that much new stuff for either VIPER or Lakers games.


So go ahead and post these here (and part III if someone could share it.)  Using the forum's attachment feature is preferred to offsite links - assuming it fits under the 20MB limit.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on May 25, 2019, 03:11:42 am
I don't have a problem if old games are posted - the original producer isn't making any money off sales (and like Sogna, APPLE PIE is long dead as a company)

Its the newer stuff, particularly doujinshi, that I frown upon and may take action against. I want to give people time to make their money, but after a while, it may be more productive to give it away for free to spark interest in paying for the new stuff.  Sadly, there isn't really all that much new stuff for either VIPER or Lakers games.


So go ahead and post these here (and part III if someone could share it.)  Using the forum's attachment feature is preferred to offsite links - assuming it fits under the 20MB limit.
Sorry for being late in replying. A certain loser orchestrated riots in my country. It was really a mess this week. Things are getting better now.

Here's the link. Someone uploaded it in 4chan. Be careful, I haven't tried it. Scan it using antivirus first.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

4chan thread:
http://boards.4channel.org/vr/thread/5584310
Backup (4chan deletes old threads after some time passes)
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/5584310

If only I could get Lakers III Windows.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on June 01, 2019, 07:49:08 pm
Yeah, that's my copy!  Scanned the paperwork and did what I could to make it a painless procedure.  I posted it to 4chan first as I saw a topical PC98 thread, and I felt there was a wider audience.  The day I get the third game, I'll do the same!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on August 12, 2019, 08:26:27 pm
And after a long delay of radio silence, I can say I own it now!  So, here's the direct copied files of the Windows port of Lakers III:

https://mega.nz/#!wHBXWIxY!trbQOA9KA6FOAbXM-Zbob49Xck-Eyr2KQe0r3YWgTq8

Notably, this one will require someone with some technical skill to rip the graphics data from, as it's not merely obvious bitmaps like the last game.  Still, imagine my surprise when I realized that they decided to also fill the disc with complete voice acting!  It installs ok, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to get it to display Japanese characters for the text...
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on August 13, 2019, 03:49:15 pm
No technical skills needed.  Most of these OZ2 files are standard bitmap files, unlike the OZ2 files from the DOS version which is compressed in some manner. Just rename extension and should open in your preferred viewer.

A few of them have a header of AM instead of BM, but I fixed the first byte on one of them and then it appeared as valid bitmap.  Unsure if there's extra image data in these files or not though.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on August 14, 2019, 07:08:06 pm
Ah, thank you!  That works perfectly.  Since I likely won't play to the end, it's nice to sneak at peak at the ending screens they added this way.  Maybe one day Lakers material will be translated... still, I've practically got a "complete" collection of the franchise now!
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on October 30, 2019, 02:22:02 am
...and speaking of things working perfectly, I'm a twit.  I didn't even realize that the game refuses to run without the disc, even from a full install.  It's no problem for me, obvously, but it makes the files I uploaded pointless since the game's unplayable with those alone.

So, I gave a try at making a .ISO of the CDrom.  I think it works, but I admit, this is my first doing such a thing.  Here's the link:

https://mega.nz/#!ZbgG3YaQ!EtX3u-7Ce6MDTLMauz_Fv0yuWWgxfFDu1Q2xroUg-ec
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: yeyek on October 31, 2019, 04:14:34 pm
...and speaking of things working perfectly, I'm a twit.  I didn't even realize that the game refuses to run without the disc, even from a full install.  It's no problem for me, obvously, but it makes the files I uploaded pointless since the game's unplayable with those alone.

So, I gave a try at making a .ISO of the CDrom.  I think it works, but I admit, this is my first doing such a thing.  Here's the link:

https://mega.nz/#!ZbgG3YaQ!EtX3u-7Ce6MDTLMauz_Fv0yuWWgxfFDu1Q2xroUg-ec
I saw your post in 4chan. Thank you so much. I've been waiting Lakers Windows version for years. Now all are available.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on November 03, 2019, 12:56:31 am
Just glad to help repay all the Lakers kindness from over the years.  Now that I prodded into the assets, here's all the brand new images featuring the characters for the Windows port (for those who want the content without having to actually play an untranslated game), pulled directly from the game itself.. 

Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on December 27, 2019, 01:16:40 am
Since this is the unofficial Lakers topic and resource of the Sogna Digital Museum, here's something: A blog post by one of the staff of the Lakers games (http://blog.livedoor.jp/osdollbase/archives/2008-05-10.html), with some commentary and insight.  It even seems to explain why the name "Lakers" of all things!  For archival sake, I'll post the text here as well.

Quote
聖少女戦隊レイカーズ

 なんとなく、昔自分が作ったゲームをググッてみたところ、あるBBSに後述の文章がアップされているのを発見しました…「誰だ、こんなに事情通な書き込みするの・・・しかも、俺の古いHN使ってるし?」…で、暫く考えてたら思い出しましたよ、多分ゲームディスクの中に仕込んでおいたテキストです。ということで、私自身が書いた文章を誰かがUPした模様。まあ、アップされていたのが6年前で書いたのは12年前なので、どうでもいいんですけどね。
 で、そこに書いてある年表を見てみると、今年で15周年なんですな。というわけで、アレコレ書いてみようかな? では、まずは昔の文章の転載から(笑)

※このゲームはアダルトゲームですが、公序良俗に反する文章は公開しません。


(https://i.imgur.com/WkO3o2t.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/rRbigN3.png)

※当時の文章を基本的に改ざんせずに転載してます。

●シナリオ担当・小覇王(自称、世界一のレイカーズおたく)

 レイカーズシリーズ全般において、シナリオを担当をさせてもらっている、小覇王です。ここでレイカーズシリーズ完結記念として、開発秘話を初めて明かしたいと思います。

 <レイカーズ開発年表>
1993. 3 レイカーズ企画スタート
1993. 8 レイカーズ開発スタート
1993.12 レイカーズ完成
1994. 5 レイカーズ2企画スタート
1994. 8 レイカーズ2開発スタート
1994.12 レイカーズ2完成
1995. 2 レイカーズ3企画スタート
1995. 6 レイカーズ3開発スタート
1996. 3 レイカーズ3完成

 ……と、まあ、レイカーズとつきあい始めて、今年で足かけ3年にもなるんですねェ。まったく、長いつき合いだこと。

 このレイカーズという企画は、もともと美少女の出るシミュレーションゲームを作ろうというコンセプトで企画がスタートしたもので、題名も当初は「独立機動部隊レイカーズ」というものでした。ちなみにレイカーズというのは、バスケットのレイカーズからとりました。(理由は、語感が気に入ったから)

 また、ゲームの内容は、今の○映特撮ヒーローのようなものではなく、パワードスーツや機動メカに乗った女の子達が戦争に巻きこまれる、そこそこハードなSFゲームになる予定でした……が、これまでにも、そんなゲームはあったし、折しもセー○ームーン人気が爆発してた頃だったので、「こいつは、便乗しない手はないぜ!」ってことで、急遽「聖少女戦隊レイカーズ」にタイトルを変更し、美少女がコスプレして戦うものになりました。そうは決まったものの、どんな女の子を登場させるかが問題でした。キャラの性格付けは、意外とすんなり決まったのですが、どんなレイカー戦士を登場させるかが、なかなか決まらず、当初は「セーラーレイカー」や「ブルマーレイカー」といったものから、「○服向上委員会」のように色々な制服を着た女の子が戦うというものまでありました。(そんな、レイカーズも見たかった様な気はするが……)

 そこで、スタッフみんなから意見を持ち寄って出たのが、今の形に近い物です。(この時点でのバニーレイカーは、ハイテックレイカーと呼ばれており、電子戦を得意とするレイカー戦士でした。)アイドル・中国娘・柔道娘・巫女さん・パソコンおたく……と、何の脈絡もないキャラクター達に不安を感じていた僕でしたが、デザイナーの”かんとりーふぁーむ”氏から上がってきたデザインを見て、あまりの出来映えの良さに、即OKを出しました。

 ストーリーは、高校時代に仲間数人と同人誌で作ったネタにセー○ームーン的な、エッセンスを加えたもので決定し、晴れて制作開始となりました。この時点では、続編を作るつもりは、ぜんぜん無かったので、詳細な設定は、見切り状態のままでシナリオを書き続けていきました。

 なんだかんだで、レイカーズを作り終えた後、社内からレイカーズの続編を望む声が上がり、レイカーズ2の企画がスタートしました。2のコンセプトは、1を凌ぐボリュームでより娯楽性の高いストーリーをという考えで進みましたが、このコンセプトが以後のストーリーに大きな影響を与えることになります。レイカーズのアンケートの結果、特撮ヒーローのエッセンスが好評を得ていることを知り、ストーリーは変えずに、よりパロディ色の高い内容を目指してシナリオが書き直されていきました。

 この結果、レイカーズ2は新しいファンの獲得には成功したものの、前作のファンからは、少々手厳しい感想をもらってしまいました。今になって思えば、やり過ぎだった感はありますが、結果として人気拡大が出来たので間違った選択では無かったと思います。(あっ、そうそう、2の完成直前に300ページ以上に及ぶレイカーズの小説を送ってきてくれた、ファンがいました。この場を借りてお礼申し上げます。今度、個人的に話がしてみたい気もします。他の人も、ファンレターなんかくれたら嬉しいかも……)

 さて、このレイカーズ3ですが、今回は、2の反省を生かし、原点回帰とシリーズの完結のために、設定の洗い直しや、マルチエンディングなどに挑戦することになりました。ゲームの内容には、ここではふれられませんが、間違いなく最終作にふさわしい内容に出来上がってると思います。(僕が、このテキストを書いている段階では、まだレイカーズ3は完成していない……)

<原作者の好きなキャラ>
 まあ、自分で書いたシナリオですから、みんな好きなのですが、一応ここにランキングを書かせてもらいます。(シナリオの展開と好きなキャラが微妙に一致してないのが、自分でも不思議です。)

 1.神楽坂玲子…意外かもしれませんが、玲子ちゃんです。
 2.氷川弥生…お嬢様とかか弱い娘に弱いんです。
 3.橘夏音…シリーズが進むごとに好きになっちゃいました。
 4.浅川詩織…僕って、意外とシスコンなんですよ。
 5.倉田千晶…思い入れはあるんですが、恋人にはちょっと。
 6.森山由架…ちょっと出番が少なくて可哀想だったかな。
 7.前島美伽…デザインだけならもっと上位にいくんだけど。
 8.オレアナ…ファンの人気におどろいてます。
 9.レティシア…適役としては、かなり気に入ってます。
10.野上綾…美人教師も悪くないッスね。

 以下、クレア、斉藤つかさ、橘 奈津子、マリアetc

 こうしてみると、意外と女の子が出てるんですね……って、このゲームってギャルゲーだったよな。

<名前の秘密>
 レイカーズのキャラクターの名前は、日本人名の場合、アイドルやヌードルの名前を組み替えて決めてる場合が多いです。(カタカナの場合は、アニメや漫画のキャラから、こっそり拝借してるものが多いかな。)まあ、元の女の子がわかる人には、僕の趣味がバレちゃうかもしれませんね。

<最後に>
 レイカーズを3年間やってきて、得た物と言えば、スタッフの友情と多少の実績ですかね。また、逆に失った物と言えば、健康と彼女かな。(笑)
 皆さん、長い間レイカーズシリーズを応援してくれて、ありがとうございます。この3で、レイカーズのシリーズは完結となりますが、また別の作品で、皆さんに会える日が来るかもしれません。

その時まで、さようなら……
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on January 08, 2020, 01:49:13 pm
A little Natsune image I indulged in and got commissioned.  Hope it's appreciated by those who like her... talents.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on January 08, 2020, 06:01:55 pm
I'm a little confused. Did you draw it on commission or commission to have someone else draw it? If so, whom and what link(s) can be provided so we can see other work?
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on January 09, 2020, 01:10:37 am
The latter.  It was drawn by MFNINETEEN.  https://www.deviantart.com/mfnineteen
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on April 18, 2021, 01:06:47 pm
Another Hinomars19 commission. Been excited about this one for a while.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Moge on April 18, 2021, 04:41:38 pm
Wow. That really captured the '80s and '90s anime art style perfectly  :o

I'm very impressed.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on April 18, 2021, 10:31:15 pm
That's some fantastic fan art for such an old game. The attention to the fine details is amazing.
My only disappointment is Natsune's "assets" are turned away and don't look as impressive as Chiaki's which are very prominently on display.

You say "Another Hinomars19 commission" though - what was the first? MFNINETEEN did the first commission you shared.

Still, perhaps the best stuff I've seen since the "Lakers or Die" fan art was posted way back on the old Hyperguy.net/Congress of Awesome board.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on April 19, 2021, 09:31:11 am
I never specified direct poses so him doing a back turn for Natsune was his idea, and I agreed.  The image follows what their Laker designs do in that regard-- Chiaki seems huge because her outfit pushes her cleavage up and out, while Natsune's armor has a swollen curve to it that reaches to her waistline. Ultimately, while Natsune is my far and away favorite, this image wasn't about her or her chest-- it was to appreciate all five equally in their Laker armor.  I wanted an image that did that, as any official group shots I had seen before would "play favorites".

I do apologize for the confusing naming-- I forgot to mention the artists are one and the same.  Hinomars19 (https://www.deviantart.com/hinomars19) is the artist's worksafe account, while MFNINETEEN (https://www.deviantart.com/mfnineteen) is where the NSFW artwork goes.  They have recently started a Patreon as well. (https://www.patreon.com/hinomars19/)

Ha ha, man.  I haven't seen the sketch version of that Lakers or Die image in so many ages.  Thank you for reuniting it with me, I had forgotten it was even a thing.  I'll always be impressed how that one turned out, considering how limited references for them were at the time.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Moge on April 20, 2021, 05:38:13 pm
Did a quick google and found Lee-Ham's deviantart profile -- https://www.deviantart.com/lee-ham

Last piece he did was back in 2014.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on December 25, 2021, 07:10:21 pm
On this anniversary of the release of the first Sei Shoujo Sentai Lakers game, posting a recent Natsune fan art I found.  Artist is Dismania (https://twitter.com/Dismania_R18)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on December 26, 2021, 07:59:42 am
New Natsune art puts me in a good mood too. :D

I saw the first two linked on your Twitter page but didn't know he did a nude as well. I couldn't find it on Dismania's Twitter or Nijie page and didn't suspect he had a Pixiv page as well. Too busy with holiday stuff over last few days to investigate further. Thanks.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on March 01, 2022, 11:39:17 pm
Natsune birthday, so Natsune art.  A redraw of a scene from Sailor Moon, featuring Natsune and Chiaki drawn by Verdazin (https://twitter.com/Verdazin20), colors by Leeham.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Moge on March 03, 2022, 01:13:29 pm
Sailor Jupiter's "talent" was such a good localization choice ;D
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: supan on May 02, 2022, 06:12:29 am
I do two pictures by photoshop
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Moge on May 13, 2022, 12:38:27 am
I do two pictures by photoshop
Good stuff.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: Munemune on May 21, 2022, 07:22:30 pm
The translation patch to the first Lakers game is finished. (https://twitter.com/BabaJeanmel/status/1527699857170907136)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: 黒い灯影 on May 21, 2022, 10:15:26 pm
Wow.. That's awesome!!  :ojiichan
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on May 27, 2022, 02:32:21 pm
Hello, I'm the author of the Lakers 1 english patch (and also of the menu patches I made for the trilogy last year). Everything is available there, along with my other translation patches for PC-98 games: https://gbatemp.net/download/authors/babajeanmel.578467/

I also wanted to tell you that I'm currently actively translating the second game. I'm around 7-8% of the total english script ATM. You can already check the translated intro there :
I'll post some progress pics there from time to time if you're interested.

Anyway, glad to see the series still has a dedicated fanbase!  :)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: 黒い灯影 on May 27, 2022, 03:01:38 pm
Great job on that :D  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on May 27, 2022, 11:16:51 pm
Hello, I'm the author of the Lakers 1 english patch

With one post BabaJeanmel has already become one of my favorite members.

Lakers discussion is welcome here not solely because I got interested in the series in the late 90s, but because Lakers III has animated scenes - Lakers was thus influenced by the VIPER series which had come out a few years prior. All media that influenced or was influenced by Sogna material is appropriate on these forums. In fact, APPLE PIE made another semi-animated game about the same time - I think the name is Yume Tenshi R but I'm less knowledgeable about it than I am Lakers.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on May 29, 2022, 10:56:33 am
Quote
With one post BabaJeanmel has already become one of my favorite members.

Thanks!  ;D

Quote
In fact, APPLE PIE made another semi-animated game about the same time - I think the name is Yume Tenshi R but I'm less knowledgeable about it than I am Lakers.

I don't think it was an Apple Pie game (VNDB lists it as being as being developed by Triangle). But I haven't played it at all, so I can't really confirm.

The rest of the Apple Pie output is not as memorable. Metal Mover Jastrike (top-view mech action game) was kinda boring, Dengeki Divison and Reijuu Twin Road (T-RPGs) forgettable at last. Lakers were really their best work.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on September 09, 2022, 04:19:12 pm
Lakers 2 is now 85% complete. Well, first pass is 85% complete to be accurate. It will need quite a bit of editing and proofreading before it's released, but we're getting closer :D
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on September 20, 2022, 04:30:51 pm
Lakers II translation is now in proofreading/testing phase. Here is a video demonstrating the intro sequence (with corrected timings), the first event scene and the first battle (minus the first H-scene for obvious reason) :

Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on September 21, 2022, 02:39:49 pm
"She's aiming at entering a top grade college" rather than "She's aiming to enter a top grade college"?
"Known until then as" rather than "Known until lately as"?
"She's at the head" rather than simply 'She is the head"?
"Its been half a year since Akira-kun suddently disappeared from our lives..."
"eerily shining in theblueish-white control monitor's light" (no space, and bluish is proper form)
クレア is typically translated as Claire, not Clea.

Yeah it needs some proofreading and grammar correction but its most of the way there.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on September 22, 2022, 03:22:52 pm
It's in the works. As I'm not a native english speaker, my grammar can be faulty sometimes... But fortunately, the project's main reviewer IS a native speaker, and is actively fixing every bit of broken english I left here and there  ;D. Some of the derps you mentioned have already been corrected btw. We're about 20% done on the main script and battle dialogue.
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on November 13, 2022, 11:34:28 am
Lakers 2 complete english patch has been released ! You can get it there (https://gbatemp.net/download/pc-98-holy-girl-force-lakers-ii-english-patch.37776/).
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: JG on November 17, 2022, 09:31:41 am
Here's an error (S06_001 title)

"Akira reborns, Reiko raises in power!"

Reborns and raises aren't correct here. First part should be either "Akira is reborn" or "Akira resurrects" or something like that. Second part should be "rises" instead of "raises"


I haven't noticed any other incorrect phrasing, though there are some stray commas ("There are people trying to sleep, here!" in same file - should not be a comma.)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on November 17, 2022, 11:48:45 am
Thanks for the feedback, I'll make corrections for a future revision.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the patch  :)
Title: Re: Here is a toughy
Post by: BabaJeanmel on November 17, 2022, 04:10:34 pm
There's a corrupted file in the patch that locks the game after chapter 7-2. I'm making a new patch verison. In the meantime, you can get the fixed file here : https://gbatemp.net/threads/my-pc-98-translation-projects.608497/page-5#post-10000701

EDIT: new version pushed to both the Internet Archive and GBAtemp.