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Non-Sogna/VIPER Discussion => Non-Hentai Video Games => Topic started by: ROMate on February 06, 2006, 02:50:30 pm
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Another Sticky topic, this time for SF3:TS. I don't think I'm gonna make individual posts for character info this time, seeing as the other thread's posts haven't been filled out very much. This is just for general discussion. Talk story, gameplay, whether or not Q is Balrog, and all that.
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Didn't I make a Third Strike thread? o_O
Anything on the Shotos - Dan + Sean, Yun and Yang, I'm ready for. =]
I'm working on Dudley but everyone uses him at the arcades in my area, I prefer Genei Jin for the win.
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You may have, but I don't know where the hell it went and am too damn lazy to go get it. Shotos are my bane. I'm a Dudley player with Chun-Li on backup, and the damn shotos are the only ones who regularly give me trouble.
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Ryu players: Expect a lot of hados//solar plexus kicks --
Ken: EX Tatsumaki, low forward to jab shoryu//SA
Akuma: Be aggressive
That's what I try to remember when fighting the shotos.
I H A T E C H U N L I .
Ridiculous, haha... I always lose against Chun. I can parry her SAII, but only when I'm not under pressure. =/
Got any Dudley combos//juggles?
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f.HK-SAIII
F.MP--SAIII
cr.LP, cr.LP, SAIII/SAI
Those are my super-arts combos of choice. Otherwise I'm usually just poking the hell out of people, though I won't pass up an opportunity to EX Machine Gun Blow and juggle with...Oh, I think it's standing MP into Jet Upper. Not sure.
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I like using Yun, with his SA I. Fun juggling with that and his DP+P moves.
I'm pretty terrible at parrying though, unless it's projectiles or air/incoming attacks.
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Yun Gen'ei Jin whore here. =]
Hey man, show me some SAI juggles. I can hever get the DP+P move after the You Hou.
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I don't have a way to capture video so I guess the only way I can "show" you is by telling you that you've got to do his DP+MP almost immediately after the You Hou, usually I just start mashing the command like crazy after I see him do the third hit.
A standard combo to do with him and his SA I is lp,lp,lk,mp,dp+lp->qcfx2+p, and then catch with dp+mp, then try a dp+lp or just end with a qcf+p.
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Alex is my fighter of choice. I really wish he was in more games, I miss bashing people with overhead punches and Boomerang Raid...
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"You can't escape!"
"Yes I can, watch me!"
Haha. That dialog is sooooo common at the arcades now, haha. It's because the Alex players here suck. I took him but I had trouble 360ing, so I stuck to Yun. I was beasting with him the other day, SAI, so thanks, Khris, for that combo. Haha.
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As for my expirience, I too am a Chun Li player. I sometimes use other characters like Akuma as an example. In the home, Dreamcast version, I'm either a Hugo Player or a Gill Player. And maybe Urien as well.
"GET READY TO DIE!!"
Weaker Gill, but at least he's strong enough to hold his own.
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This isn't really much different from the previous combo I posted for Yun's SAI, but it does more damage and is easier:
(close)mk,dp+mp->qcfx2+p and then continue with a dp+p juggle or however you like to end it with.
My main problem is with an arcade stick. At home on the XBOX I can land EVERYTHING but when it comes to the stick, I just can't do it. I've got similar problems with the PS controllers.
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It's just a matter of adjusting. After 2 or 3 matches on a new controller I can finally start owning at my usual level.
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Thankfully I managed to master the Dreamcast version of the game, regardless of controllers. The previous editions don't do so well control-wise, however.
Previous Editions are the SFIII and SFIII Double Impact two pack.
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It's just a matter of adjusting. After 2 or 3 matches on a new controller I can finally start owning at my usual level.
Heh, yeah. It takes me a bit longer than 2 or 3 matches to adjust. I finally was able to do a half-assed Gravedigger loop after at least 8 matches in GGXXS. On a Street Fighter 3 note, though, I really have a problem with Japanese-styled sticks and the dragon punch motion. I think I've successfully completed one of those Yun combos once or twice in the arcade.
PROTIP: For some reason, a lot of people fall for QCF+HP with Yun from across the screen. I don't know why, but I can manage to hit people with it 80 percent of the time I use it, unless I'm spamming with it. My guess is that they think it's a MP version which doesn't reach, that and it's fairly easy to hit with while they're at the low point of their jump.
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Wait, you have access to Slash!? I wanna play Slash! How'd you get Slash? Tell me in the GG thread.
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Wait, you have access to Slash!? I wanna play Slash! How'd you get Slash? Tell me in the GG thread.
Wait, who's Slash, and where did he come from?
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Slash is the latest Guilty Gear game. Heh, sorry.
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Has Sammy run out of ideas already?
In other notes, it was classic of me to unleash Gill's fury on the world after I unlocked him in third strike, the home, dreamcast version.
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I hate Gill. Aegis Reflector the popsicle to death. xD
Sidenote: SLASH?!?!?!?! WHERE?!?!??!
Anyhoo, I'm back to Ken beastage for now, while I learn to not Gou Zankuu with Akuma. I'm already getting used to the demon flips and the normals and all. After I'm used to Gou Shoryu I'll move on to Gou Rasen, hehe... But for Ken it's Jinrai all the way =]
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Ken should never ever ever be played without SAIII. It's just too good.
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I used to use SAI for a bit though... and often for fun I use Shinryu. =]
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I hate Gill. Aegis Reflector the popsicle to death. xD
So, a Urien Player eh? Looks like sibling rivalry has risen up again! Gill is actually kind of fun once you master his abilities. Loads of FUN!!
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Gill is WAY too easy to win as.
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That should be on a future poll!
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So, a Urien Player eh? Looks like sibling rivalry has risen up again! Gill is actually kind of fun once you master his abilities. Loads of FUN!!
Hehe, I'm not that good yet. I usually play with Gou/Ken/Yun/Yang, I haven't gotten used to Urien yet. I'm working on that unblockable atm =]
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Too much charging for me. I won't ever do that unblockable.
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Haha, I'm not a charge fan, but I like to change characters from time to time so I know what to expect from other players. But alas, there are no Necro//Twelve//Alex//Hugo//Anything that's not Chun or a Shoto players over here.
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Found some vids of a Japanese Dudley player. Felt they were worth sharing.
Fujiwara owning the s**t out of a Ryu player. Stupid SA1 shenanigans..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zecApFXFas
Fujiwara vs Hayao (the Hugo is actually unnamed, but you can TELL it's Hayao)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvgesM9wV6w
Fujiwara vs random Makoto (sick 3rd round)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-7mhJxuGlg
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There's a tournament happening here where I live on July 1st.
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tournament eh?That's cool.
Although I'm a fan of alot of the various Street Fighter games,i'm not too good at them.I'm alos a KOF fan,and own a few of them,but not too good at them.I think both SF and KOF have many interesting characters.
The only fighting games i'm good at are the various Ranma 1/2 and Sailor Moon fighting games. (Got lots of those,mostly for SNES,but also got one for my japanese Saturn.)
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I never played any Capcom fighters seriously until Third Strike.
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Currently I own not only Third Strike for the Dreamcast, but the Double Attack as well. Managed to unlock Gill in all three of them. That was very hard to do!
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Double Impact*
I just got back into SF3 the other day... I was beasting, haha =]
I'm too aggressive. But aggression + aggressive parrying = submission, bukkake.
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I take it slower in Third Strike. I poke and block more in that game than any other fighting game I've ever played. Once I've got a knockdown, or a cornered opponent (or both), that's when I start to push into more aggressive strategies.
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hmmm that reminds me I haven't played street fighters in ages
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How do I beat the last guy in Street Fighter: Third Strike?(I mean that red and blue guy)
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Gonna attach this thread to the end of the SF3 sticky.
As Dudley, Ken, and Chun-Li, I beat Gill through pressure and pokes. Poke him out of his moves, capitalize properly. Close in, get ready for wake-up. If he starts to revives, dash up and whack him to stop him gaining back all his energy.
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Use meaty attacks. Perfect your parrying. Gill's just some AI with uber power and mad priority.
Keep him cornered and make sure he's always blocking. Also make sure he can't counter anything you throw at him.
If you want to beat him cheap (like I did with the characters I didn't know how to use -- I had to use them if I wanted to unlock Gill), you can jump in with a roundhouse and low roundhouse (sweep) when you land. Repeat until he's dead.
Turn on the pressure when you see that his super arts bar starts to get close to MAX. Don't let him get that MAX. If he does, avoid his attacks until he uses a super, then hit him out of it if you can. THEN kill him. Or, I guess... you could just have him resurrect, then rape him out of it. Just know when he's not invincible anymore. Can't say how many KKZ (Akuma's second secret super) and supers I've wasted on that bitch. Play it safe, ex tatsu. Haha.
Use pokes, too. Even though it's a computer you can use psychology in a fight. Normally when someone gets a hit in they usually think in their head, "Sick, now for the followup."
It's obvious. But try to break the rhythm and don't follow up the way you normally would. I don't know how to say it in other words. I heard people call this footsies or something. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm tired. I don't know what the hell I just wrote. xD
-Pressure
-Aggressive parry --> combo
-Meaty attacks
-Don't let him fill up his bar
-Pokes
Finals tomorrow, wish me luck. I'm heading to bed. xD
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You actually wrote some good advice.
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I never played any Capcom fighters seriously until Third Strike.
Street Fighter II The World Warrior was serious business for me as a kid. The move lists of the eight fighters have been seared into my brain matter.
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Street Fighter 3: Third Strike is the best arcade Fighting game I've ever seen (Every thing in this game is Classic)
It had the Classic moves :qcf :p HADOKEN
Great Super moves :qcf :qcf :p Shinku hadoken
Great Blocking system which makes the game better
hehe....Anyway, here's a clip I found that shows Street Fighter 3: Third Strike tournament winner in 2004 as I think.
Street-Fighter-III-Tournument Winner (http://media.putfile.com/Street-Fighter-III-Tournument) Amazing 0_o
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Yep, classic Daigo video.
Parrying supers actually isn't very hard at all once you get the tactic down. For me, I just have trouble getting the initial hit parried (for that Chun super, at least). If you miss one, it's over.
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Thanks for the advice! I finally :qcf :qcf :p his ass!
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Yeah, super-parries aren't hard, the thing that fucks everyone in the ear is the fact that Daigo pulled that off in a tourny, with close to no health and probably under immense stress.
Wait. Stress? What am I saying? Daigo's GOD, he doesn't stress. xD
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Damn... That's the most use of parrys I ever did see! He must've owned that basketball bonus game in the arcade/home version!
Even as Gill, I couldn't succeed in that stage where Sean throws those basketballs at me!
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Which level? I could do all of them... sometimes I'm just not paying attention and I miss, but I know I can do all of them. Hehe. It's the SUV beat up I have trouble with. You're supposed to break all sides before having the car explode to get EXCELLENT, but even with that I'm not getting it right.
Must be missing something...
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It's a varied level, primarly at level 2. Crazy Sean and his basketball throwing techniques!
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http://www.godweapon.net/comboVids/gamePlayer.php?id=362
KO(Yun) vs Daigo (Ken)
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Oh man, I only saw the first part and I remember how painful it was to watch (I was flipping out). Haha.
KO's first GJ combo was... lolish.
Uhm... IIRC there was a continuation? If I'm not mistaken Daigo beasted after that. He always beasts last minute. That's his style, he lets you throw in a few free punches, builds your confidence up, and rips you apart afterwards, lol. Cruel.
Thanks for posting that!
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They fought 3 matches. KO won the first and third, Daigo won the second.
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And in other news, I fucking hate Shotos. If you're a guy in gi with a fireball, uppercut, and spinning kick, you are on the shitlist. So many fucking scrubs playin' shotos around here it makes me sick.
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And in other news, I fucking hate Shotos. If you're a guy in gi with a fireball, uppercut, and spinning kick, you are on the shitlist. So many fucking scrubs playin' shotos around here it makes me sick.
LOL! Welcome to the realization I've had since SF II was new.
Though in the shoto characters' defense, not every character based on shotos are scrub.
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What's to hate? If it's a scrub that's using one, you shouldn't have a problem.
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I'm also supremely rusty and learning a new character, so my anti-shoto abilities are weakened.
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Which character is it?
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Yun. The Genei-Jin videos are heavily inspiring.
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Hehe great. Any advice on Yun, just ask. He was my main character after I mastered Ken//Gouki.
I'm using Ibuki/Yang/Denjin-Ryu now. Well, working on them anyway.
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Fire away. I'm practicing landing LP-LK-MP chains and hit-confirming them into shoulder tackles/super arts right now. I think I've got cr.LK x2 into lunge punch/shoulder/rising kick/super down pretty good. I'm trying to get acclimated to his dive kick; the results of it don't always seem to be the same.
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SORROWFUL! Get'cho azz out here and tell me what to do when I drop my Genei-Jin combo by doing forward HP instead of HP-Fierce Shoulder.
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All that I could suggest is this:
Don't use genei-jin, it's boring.
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But it's strong as hell! Shortest meter in the game, and there's SO MUCH you can do with it!
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Yeah, I know.
But it's still boring.
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How so? 16 hit Genei-Jin combos are the most impressive things I've ever seen in Third Strike. I didn't think it was possible to exceed 10 hits without a super move that did all the hits automatically (i.e., Chun-Li's Houyouko-Sen). Actually having a chance to combo together normal and special moves for more than 3 or 4 hits is too good in my eyes.
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I never said it wasn't impressive (though I haven't tried using it myself), but it's simply boring to watch. Just about every Yun I've seen uses it, and it's not as fun to watch after the first few times of seeing it.
If you're looking to win with something proven, then definitely go for the GJ, though.
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Ken matches kill me. I hate seeing any match containing a Ken, 'cause he's gonna cr.MK xx Fireball, HP SRK, and double crouching LK into super all the damn day long. I can't distinguish Ken players from each other at all. Chun-Li is close second. I don't like watching them anymore.
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It's always GJ, HK or Shippu when it comes to the top tier. See the supers -are- boring. Not just GJ. When you see GJ, think Alpha.
"Alpha's CC's boring."
Haha.
And Yun's under-ten-hit combos actually seem to dish out way more damage than his 10+ ones. KARA PALM OMFG.
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I'm not even gonna touch Kara-Palm without a stick. That shit's gonna be impossible on a controller.
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I still don't know what exactly kara cancelling is.
So uh, what is it?
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You cancel a normal attack that moves your character forward into another move (usually a throw) to add more range to it.
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Haha. Casua clipsl. I had this a while back but I only found it on my old DVD today.
I'm the taunt-happy player. I parry a lot without punishing. I just find it fun. Near the end you probably notice how defensive I am. The longer the matches last, the happier I am.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HkTonm7irjw
Taunt-happy one again. No, I wasn't trying to be like Daigo. I wanted yellow but I pressed RK instead.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g9zYTUKtAgs
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I'll watch them from home on Sunday. Youtube doesn't play nice with the campus network.
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Not a problem. Nothing too cool anyway. We're scrubs =]
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Bah. Match vids are match vids. Plus I rarely see any involving players I know.
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Haha. Casua clipsl. I had this a while back but I only found it on my old DVD today.
I'm the taunt-happy player. I parry a lot without punishing. I just find it fun. Near the end you probably notice how defensive I am. The longer the matches last, the happier I am.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HkTonm7irjw
Taunt-happy one again. No, I wasn't trying to be like Daigo. I wanted yellow but I pressed RK instead.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g9zYTUKtAgs
Finally got around to watching these. Why not just say "I'm Ray"? Clearly that's the one you are, taunting twice in a row and parrying junk. You're not bad. I'd love to fight you someday.
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Haha. Casua clipsl. I had this a while back but I only found it on my old DVD today.
I'm the taunt-happy player. I parry a lot without punishing. I just find it fun. Near the end you probably notice how defensive I am. The longer the matches last, the happier I am.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HkTonm7irjw
Taunt-happy one again. No, I wasn't trying to be like Daigo. I wanted yellow but I pressed RK instead.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g9zYTUKtAgs
Fighting like a much better Dan Hibiki, you certainly have potential.
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Haha think so? :D!
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Possibly, despite both of you being Ken players.
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We don't usually take Shotos (okay, maybe he does more than me)... most of the time when we play, we play mirror matches. xD
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Here's a suggestion, why not play with your favorite characters, and people you are really good as. Then it would be a VERY interesting match.
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We don't usually take Shotos (okay, maybe he does more than me)... most of the time when we play, we play mirror matches. xD
I hate that. I can't stand fighting the same character that I'm using. I out-think myself, not the other player, and always lose.
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I'm good with the Shotos. Haha (who isn't? XD)
People I play with lose interest after I take Yun because I GJ them to death... I play with Yang but usually his health just gets spilled by some bad player who constantly attacks with a jump in RK then low RK.
But hey I'll try it out!
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Hm. Anyone have any Urien tips? I'm having trouble buffering. And I'm lost with the partitioning business. Should I give up on the Aegis Reflector? I heard multi Chariot Rushes are impossible on a pad =\
Oh, I quit Yun, too. I switched to Makoto =p
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Have fun with her. Learn her SA2 stuff and you'll stun the entire world (in a literal sense). I know nothing of Urien. I never even considered him as an option because a) I can't play charge characters, and b) he wears a thong.
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I got the game on Dreamcast, and Urien plays pretty well, despite him being a weaker version of Gill.
Take advantage of his long reach. He's no Dhalsim, but he does have just a good of a reach as his brother. His projectiles can be used in order to keep the oppoent at bay, or to cancel his or her own projectiles.
His rush moves and flip attacks are great for sailing over the projectiles, and into the opponent.
His supermoves include an upgraded Kill Ball, (You know, he shouts out "KILL" when he launches his projectile.) Tyrant Punish (A great move for a beatdown character) and Ageis Reflector to cancel projectiles, and to keep ypur opponent in the corner.
For further practice, look to Capcom Fighting Evolution, where he is also playable. Sure it stinks, but he's in there, and that's all it matters.
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Coolness, thanks.
Yeah I can't get Makoto down. She has fast, hard movements compared to the ones I always take who have no lag after their moves.
I have a nasty habit of cancelling her hayate =p
I can cancel into her Abare Tosanami from her FP, but I need to work on the timing.
Is there ANY use for her shoryu? o_O
GET READY TO DIE!
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After SA2 you can dash in and do it. It does a metric fuckton of stun damage. Also, her crouching MK stuffs a lot of moves.
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Just recently started playing again. I'm rusty as hell, and my abilities are set back so far I'd probably get monkey-stomped by even the crudest of scrubs. I remember everything I'm supposed to do as Dudley (just gotta get used to doing it again), but I don't remember half of what Yun was made of.
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Just recently started playing again. I'm rusty as hell, and my abilities are set back so far I'd probably get monkey-stomped by even the crudest of scrubs
I hear that. I used to tear it up with Twelve, but in a recent bout with my little brother I was so out of practice I had to resort to a shotoclone just to get the job done. This can not stand!
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Gotta put that practice in! Too bad I got crushed by homework 2 days after that post was made. >_< This weekend will be a good opportunity.
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I hear that. After I get home, work out, and eat dinner I'm usually too wiped to do any gaming. Still a chance to reclaim my former fighting glory shall give me the strength I need!
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I just need time to sit in training mode and practice hit-confirms and combo sequences and I'll be good to go.
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Ugg re-memorizing the frame rate is going to be a pain...
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That's way too much damn work. I find it's better to figure out such things naturally through gameplay. It's less of a strain that way.
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True, but then true mastery will forever elude you! Naw I get what you're saying, and my last comment was a bit of a joke anyway. The only game I took the time to memorize the framerate was KOF 2002, mostly so I could include some of the K9999's Desperation moves into larger combos.
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Actually memorizing frames and stuff would feel too much like studying, and a game's not fun if it's work.
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Ah but using the knowledge gained through hours of studying to reduce your friends to the level of sniveling infants whenever they face you: that's where the fun comes in.
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I do that anyway without the study. XD It probably takes me longer to reach such a level of ownage though.
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Yeah but I'm sure you get there eventually. Different paths I guess.
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More or less. I like the gradual climb my skill takes. I feel like I can track my progress more that way.
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Any differences between the re-release of the game in the anniversary collection and the Dreamcast version?
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Not that I know of.
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I think the arranged soundtrack... might be missing other things.
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Hey, dudes! Are we on MAME with this shit?
I totally suck, but we should play!
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I admit to being somehow technologically impaired, as I never figured out how to set up and run MAME. Of course, given my track record of playing games on my computer, the damn machine would either
A) Be unable to run MAME
B) Just die
so...yeah.
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...you can MAME 3rd Strike? I thought it was unplayable on PC.
And don't worry ROMate, I had the same problem. xD
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...you can MAME 3rd Strike? I thought it was unplayable on PC.
And don't worry ROMate, I had the same problem. xD
Its alright, a lot of people have issues with erectile dysfunction.
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I forget if they actually cracked CPS3 by now. I heard they made headway I think even on one of the threads in this forum but I forget lulz
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Yeah, dawgs. CPS3 is completely emulated now. It's the hottest shit on kaillera. Fighting game players! Get me on AIM if you want to play something, anything!
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Yeah... It's Fully emulated in MAME and running with full speed in my cheap P4 2.4GHz/512MB Ram
All you need is the emulator, Roms and the CHD files of the games
Yeah, dawgs. CPS3 is completely emulated now. It's the hottest shit on kaillera. Fighting game players! Get me on AIM if you want to play something, anything!
Yeah... I would like to play it in kaillera but the big problem is with that stupid PING
Mine is between ~ 250 to 300.... So it's no use for me
The controller will response after 2 seconds when I move the Joystick :(
I think I'll need to try to adopt the skills of a real Samurai or Ninja and preempt all of your opponents moves
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CPS3 finally good for emulators, wow where have I been?
Damn, ping's gonna be a major problem. ._.
that and I need a pad/joystick.
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Well I dont Know if u guy know,or its post.
But theres going to be Street Fighter 3 on Xbox live soon.So maybe I have hope to see some of u guys soon.I sucking so much in SF3 cus of SSF4.that focust,that FOCUST!!!
Still a fue practice again ant thats it,I play with my 2 top Makoto and Urien.Hugo,Yun,Yang,Ryu and Alex.going to practice with Elena.I love her in the comic.
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The Graphics Of this Game
High-resolution seems to be a no-no in Capcom fighting games, but the animation is top notch (specially with the lanky Elena, va-voom!) The only mystery is the apparent downgrade when compared to DI.